You'd be surprised, J. I've been battling glass jaw deniers since I got here. Do have any idea how many deluded fanboys say - with not a SHRED of proof - "that punch woulda KOd anybody??" It's ludicrous. No, THAT punch KOd THAT guy, PERIOD. That's all we know, it's all we CAN know.
If punch resistance is relatively unimportant to MMA then why is Kendall Grove, a 6'6" MW with serviceable stand-up, a decent clinch game, and a black belt with a good guard at the bottom of the division? Why is Matt Lindland, an Olympic silver medalist in Greco with an outstanding takedown and clinch game and good top game mere cannon fodder? Because they're GLASS JAWED JOKES that can't take a punch well enough to use any of those tools!atsch And yes, I'm well aware that age and punishment take a toll on chins but do you know what it's called when it happens? A glass jaw/china chin/porcelain puss/mushy mandible/SHITTY PUNCH RESISTANCE!
I never said it was relatively unimportant. I said it is less important in MMA than it is in boxing. The importance in mma has grown with all the rule changes that have come along since its infancy. Stand-ups, separations, and the implementation of rounds have changed the game. In the early days, a fighter may only have to close the distance once; and never have to worry about a separation. Now, the rules raises the chances of needing to close the distance on multiple occasions. This raises the risk of getting knocked out. It still does not make punch resistance as important in mma as it is in boxing. Matt Lindland cannon fodder?atsch Lindland is not the greatest ever, but he has had a respectable career. Lindland has only been ko'd by strikes 3 times in 31 fights. Lindland has been submitted 4 times, making submission defense as big a reason for his losses as punch resistance. Linland is also in his 40's now, meaning he is physically weaker than he would have been several years ago. That means his clinch is weaker, he is less explosive, and slower; making him more of a target now.
I don't know. :? I know I'm not going to get MushableMandible to agree with any of my points. I guess I'm just trying make a few valid points in an otherwise shitty thread.
Continue to make excuses for why punch resistance isn't important and why these glass jawed phonies continue to get exposed, we all know what you are, a deluded fanboy that's pissed that someone see faults in his idols.:deal It's not Lindland's clinch or strength that is making him more of a target because he doesn't even get into clinch range, he just gets his glass jaw busted on the first punch.:hey Punch resistance is key to any sort of fighting and only a supremely talented fighter can get by without it. Even greats like Chuck and Wanderlei end up as china chinned chumps that are ripe for the KO and nothing else when their chins fade. Quit denying the facts!:hi:
Deluded? You're the idiot that keeps arguing against points I haven't made. I never said punch resistance isn't important. I keep telling your illiterate ass that it isn't as important in mma as it is in boxing. Then I back that up with reasons why. You can't counter those reasons logically, so you keep making up a fake argument. His being older, slower, and less explosive is a much of his problem as anything.