Going up in weight. The Pacquiao Double Standard

Big deal...then just correct him. I mean, really, is that the big beef you have? On what some OTHER FANS might thinks? :huh

Do you hear people making a big deal out of Pac's win at 135? Do you hear people making a big win out of Floyd's win at 154? Nope, because those belts don't hold much relevance to their careers. Just as this 154 belt Pac won is be more an afterthought.

To you that's the same thing? 90 meters is the same as 100 meters? WTF?!?!

100 meters is 100 meters. JrMW is 148 to 154. That is a RANGE that allows you to compete in that weight class. 100 meters is a set amount. terrible attempt there at a comparison.

 

Billy Conn v Joe Louis is a strange example to use. There was no agreed catchweight, but Louis dehydrated himself to weigh in below 200lbs as he thought it would look better to the public and was gassed late in the fight. I'm guessing you had to use heavyweight examples though, as it's tough to find examples in the lower weights that have moved up weights and haven't fought catchweights at some point or other.

Literally no idea what you're talking about here. Nate Campbell has never fought at welterweight. He was last seen losing to Victor Ortiz at light welterweight. And he wasn't 'trying his hand' at it, the reason he was at LWW was that he showed up to his last lightweight title fight two and a half pounds overweight.

 

Not when one person is on a monthly salary contract. I get to leave work early if I want to even if the other guy does the same work I do.

Catchweights existed since boxing was created way before you were born and automatically became a boxing expert when Floyd became pro in 96.

You say double standards but you forgot to mention Marquez catchweight where Floyd couldn't even do the contracted weight.

 

And so did the people who he will be compared to. Or will your grandchildren think that Sugar Ray Leonard was a three weight world champion?

 

If they both agree to the terms in the contract, sanctioning organization and athletic commission sign off on it... WTF is the problem?

Also... Threads/arguments like this one give too much credit for winning belts. They are just ABC belts... They are money sinks for top level fighters, thats it. Casual fans don't know the difference between a WBC, IBF, RING Mag, WBA Intercontinental, WWF, whatever... If you call yourself a real fan of boxing, why the hell are you giving these belts credence? These are fanboy arguments, plain and simple.

Pacquiao is the best fighter of this era, Mayweather is a close second. <---isn't that what we're really getting at when we talk about belts and asterisks and catch weights and all this ****??

 

This is how a champion wins world titles. Watch and learn *******s.
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Exactly. On one day everyone complains about the alphabet belts, then the other omfg double standard with Manny and the holiest of holy ABC belt. How could he???

 

You, being an astute boxing enthusiast, should be able to sit your grandchildren down and explain that those belts didn't mean jack ****, and that the real reason Manny Pacquiao was such a bad ass is because he kept fighting bigger and bigger guys, and kept kicking the **** out of them. He broke their faces, put them in hospitals requiring surgery and ****... He had the other top P4P fighter of the era making excuses and taking vacations to avoid the fight.

And to that last part... If I negotiated with my employer a half hour lunch so I can get off 30 minutes early, and you accepted their original terms of employment...who's fault is that now? :deal

 

Neither of those weights hindered his opponents, so why should they?

 

Much ado about NOTHING. There was a 17 pound difference between Pac and Margarito the night of the fight. To say that this catchweight crap somehow makes that irrelevant or cheapens the achievement is nonsense. And, as a long-time (35 year) boxing fan, I can tell you, this is nothing new anyway.