Going up in weight. The Pacquiao Double Standard

There was a 17 pound difference between Pac and Margarito the night of the fight

That's quite interesting - on fight night. I wonder if Margarito having to make 150lb 24 hours prior to fight made any significant impact on his actual performance?

 

A champion should be able to defend his belt at his weight. For that reason, I had a problem with the Cotto fight and thought it was a bit bull**** of Pac and Arum (especially since Cotto is another Arum guy).

The fight with Margo was a bull**** belt that magically appeared for a PPV, so I never really considered it a championship fight in the first place.

 

Sure I would. But who shall I compare him to when discussing his greatness with my grandchildren? 54 in stead of 50, 45 in stead of 47... no I totally see your point... but is there someone who has accomplished more? Ok, nevermind that 'accomplishments' bit, as it obviously infers that we are talking about paper belts.... Has any other fighter moved up through the weight classes handing out beatdowns the way Pacquiao has?? The only fighter that comes to mind is Ray Leonard, and if you look at Sugar's fights...he stopped handing them beatdowns out at 147 pounds, with the exception of a couple no-hopers at 160 and LaLonde at 165 (which was for the 168 and 175 lb WBC belts :rofl ).

Looking back...everyone here pretty much agrees that SRL is one of the greatest of all time... Did all those belts matter? What about the catchweights? Nope... none of those little paper/money details matter. He's still one of the greatest, based on who he beat and the style with which he did it.

 

Damn...water tight! :deal

 

Leaonard is not a former flyweight world champion. Roberto Duran is probably a better comparison.

 

The problems are the sanctioning bodies and all these dam belts ..How is it that the wbc can even sanction a fight at 154 for a title when neither man was ranked in the division to begin with ..Oh I know grease the palms and there is a belt on the line !

 

The catchweight dosent really mater. Cotto weighed alot more than Pac on fight night and Margarito outweighed him by 17 ****in pounds on fight night. It's like some ****s on here think the fighters stay under the limit on fight night.

 

One reason why Pac fought those guys at a catchweight is because he's got the leverage to do so. He is more popular, he is exciting and he brings in the money. I have no doubt that Pac could have fought and beaten Cotto at 147, heck he would have beaten him at 150. But why do that when you can force him to a more comfortable territory?

Haye, Campbell are shits. Who the **** are they to ask for a catchweight?

 

Pacquiao is the one with the weight disadvantage. He's the 140lber fighting a guy who weighs 165lbs on fight night, yet asking for a catchweight works in his advantage? What part of a 17lb weight advantage is going to hurt Margarito? All the catchweight does, is try and even it up a bit more and make these fights even more intriguing.

Think about it this way - People **** on Floyd for asking JMMarquez come up to his weight, so surely you could apply the same logic for Margarito fighting a natural 140lber? Yet because Mayweather won and Margarito lost, that logic goes out of the window, because of the results. That's the wrong way to think about it.

 

Duran started fighting at 118 lbs, but didn't win a "world title" til 135. He won titles at 135, 140, 154, and 160 (back when titles actually meant something.) But it needs to be pointed out that he took losses and beatings between each one of those title winning efforts...

 

Holy **** you and I agree on something. :good

 

The only catchweights Manny has had have been against Cotto and Margarto. Could anyone really say in their right mind, given the way Manny literally DESTROYED the pair of them with ease, that the catchweights of 2lbs and 4lbs respectively would have made ANY difference to the outcome? It's 2lbs man. And the 4lbs for the Margarto fight can't have been such a huge deal when we consider that Margarito fought at Weltweight for literally his whole career and had gone up to light middle before, then come down again to have his best performances. I don't buy it.

 

This is a great way of seeing it! I agree.:thumbsup