Goldenboy/ Mayweather/ Montoya drug testing stuff: Updated - Big News?

As for Sonnen, UFC gave him Texas for his comeback fight (not this one) a place which doesn't test for testosterone.

They knew. The commission also told Sonnen he was talking **** last week before granting him an exemption. He was 14:2:1 post-Anderson IIRC.

The same commission ghat recently said to 14:1 Alistair Overeem 'we don't think you're a steroid cheat'. Banned him for 9months (he tried to flee the test BTW)

Essentially 'we've got to do this but we still want you to come here and make money'.

 

Fair play, I wasn't aware of that. Although in the Peterson case it was Lamont's team that requested the VADA testing, so maybe they have a different relationship than USADA/GBP with NSAC. Purely speculating mind, I don't know for sure. But I know GBP made a bit of a hash of their dealings with VADA, hence the delay in them finding out Lamont had failed. Something to do with failing to sign the right release forms or something.

 

:good Cheers.

"This is not a mere technicality. It involves issues of medical ethics. VADA needed a signed contract in order to deviate from its Results Management Policy (posted on our website) and release the preliminary and personal medical information to a third party"

That was the part I was interested in, about the medical ethics and "patient" confidentiality etc. Under say olympic or amateur style testing you waive your rights to confidentiality, as the governing body require you to do so to compete.
I'm not sure that this would be the case with a third party testing regimen. The results belong to whoever pays the piper, and VADA/USADA etc would be breaching patient confidentiality if the athletes don't agree for those results to be published.

 

Looking at it from a sheer muscle mass point of view. The results you've achieved while on PED's have basically stretched your muscles permanently. The muscle memory has been built into your system so you could reach that level again within weeks even if you had not trained for months.

 

And yet people will still say USADA and GBP are fighting the good fight.

 

I don't think GBP have much appetite left for losing fights to positive test results. Two of their biggest fights have now been kiboshed by VADA. Time to find a more co-operative agency...

The Winky/Quillin thing is very strange. GBP don't seem to want the any part of it, despite Winky being willing to pay for the testing, and I'm not convinced by the argument that it was too close to the fight for them to "educate the fighters". Educate them on what? Not taking PED's too close to a fight? The lack of baselines shouldn't really be an excuse either, as they can still detect synthetic substances at the least, just for some peace of mind.

 

Exactly. I'm not saying they're definitely cheating, I am saying they don't really care to make the positive progressions they claim they are.

 

Yeah, why bother doing anything at all!?

There are really four major boxing sites out there. The Ring, the Scene, ESPN and MaxBoxing. One of those is owned by the company involved in the story, so I can't see them pushing this.

The Scene is a news site and rarely does features. ESPN (Rafael or Woods) might cover something like this, but Rafael has never shown a huge amount of interest in the topic.

So you've got MaxBoxing. Independently funded, unaffiliated, and featuring a journalist who HAS shown some interest in the topic, writing articles before Peterson and Berto got "caught". It's pretty likely the reason he heard about this is because he was talking to someone while trying to find out how the testing works.

Why is Montoya being a "small-timer" (with a larger readership than Boxing News, incidentally) a problem to him breaking the story? He's the one chasing it. As long as he does his research and gets his facts straight, the story will out.

It seems like you've picked a position and are trying to stay with it even when it's totally daft.

 

That's known as 'Rob Palmeritis' Dave :good