Goldenboy Says No Fight After Trout Requests VADA Testing For Canelo Fight

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  1. EONS

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    He was found clean because there can be a possibility that he was off the cycle. If the boxing industry decides to do year round random drug testing then we will see who is clean and who is on anabolic steroid substances. They can go on a cycle for 3 months when then come off them 2 months before a fight and test negative. We will not know until they do year round random drug testing, until then everyone is suspect even the ones that are testing negative.:blood
     
  2. casian72

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    All these morons with idiot opinions. The reason is GBP wants nothing to do with VADA anymore. For the reason presented by other posters about not dilvuging a failed 1st sample.
     
  3. EONS

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    Even if they don't divulge the first sample, the sport is not a clean sport. Example number 1 is the fact that once this VADA program got going there has been plenty of fighters getting caught. I would like to explain to you how Steroids work and how you could get away with testing negative but it would take me a while just to convince you to listen, and then hours to explain in detail how they work and what effect different types of Steroids have on the body. People are way too ignorant, especially the ones that are not educated on the subject, if you are academically educated on the subject then it should not be a problem understanding the situation that is going on in boxing in regards to performance enhancers.:hey
     
  4. ALTimegreat

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    Trout must not want the fight.
     
  5. Imperial1

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  6. MetalLicker

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    If either guy gets caught, Golden Boy is looking at millions lost.

    Drug testing is a double edge sword in the promotion business. On one hand, dirty fighters get caught, on the other, the promoter lose millions. VADA has caught a lot of fighters that hurt of the business of Golden Boy. They lost money with Berto and Peterson getting caught.

    Golden Boy would rather use USADA where they can probably have contracts provisions in place. VADA is just out of their control and they don't want to risk losing millions. They're competing with Arum for the Sept 15th date. If Trout or Canelo get a positive test, it'd be a disaster and they'd lose tons of money.

    Do I blame them? No. Do they fear either fighter getting caught? Absolutely. Will it be bad for business? Hells f*ucking yes.
     
  7. casian72

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    son please. I know what the cycling of steriods are. I played HS football and had knowledge of what some of my fellow players were doing. Steriods is some scary **** but to simply accuse someone for refusing an organization doing the testing and not the testing itself is ridiculous. If he had never been tested by VADA(he was in the Mosley fight) or refused testing altogether like Pac or Chavez Jr., then yes I would be suspicious but this is stretching it. Maybe you just dont like Canelo and if that's the case then state it in your post also. I do however 100 percent agree with you on your last statement and many of my previous points have address this subject. Again from seeing some of my friends go through the effects of steriod use I do believe stricter testing protocol is needed. My apologies if I sound like Im contradicting myself but when a person has undergone stricter testing already, at least in my eyes, his suspiciousness does go down.
     
  8. EONS

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    Hearing about what someone is taking does not mean you know about Steroids or that you have knowledge on that subject, that is ignorance at its best. Once again I will say that he could possibly be off the cycle while he is in training for the fight and then get off of it once the fight is over. Hearing about steroids and actually going to the University and taking courses on nutrition and chemistry and learning about Steroids and how they actually work and what elements they are made of are two completely different things. I am not accusing anyone of using them, but until we have year round random drug testing we will not know who is on Steroids or who is not on them. Keep up on the books more and less on what your friends say. :yep
     
  9. Hermit

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    Makes Golden Boy look a tad inconsistent.
     
  10. PrinceN

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    actually they are consistent they said they are done with VADA because they wont reveal a failed sample A
     
  11. JoeCamelTow

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    Refusing to get dictated to. :deal

    Trout screwed up.:patsch
     
  12. Hermit

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    This is what has been beat to death and Floyd fans seem to not want to understand. Under the current setup these are PRIVATE medical records collected under a PRIVATE CONTACT that can't be released without proper authorization. GBP knows this and this is smoke screen. If Trout signs the release, then GBP gets the A sample results. This isn't rocket science.
     
  13. casian72

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    I do agree with you on some of your points but you seem to not understand that i did not hear about or just have second hand info. These were my friends using steriods and I saw first hand their effect and how they can improve perfomance and the stages they go through. also the devasting effects and me also being an honor student was curious and studied the subject to great extent in an effort to convice my friends to stop using them. You sit there and judge and try to be academic about it, yet present no links or at least basic info which could help educate many here about the rampant abuse of these drugs ravaging our beloved sport of boxing. So no disrespect as I do agree with you but I am saying that the current extra testing being done in some fights like FMJ, Canelo, Cotto and others is a start in the right direction. Remember that boxing has some deeply rooted traditions and breaking them has to be done in small but productive steps otherwise you can destroy the sport. So lets continue to support boxing and stricter testing and comdemn those who outright refuse additional testing. Can we agree to that?
     
  14. Hermit

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    So, either THEIR drug test or no drug test? Yeah, that seems fair. Trout is a more legit belt holder than Alverez.
     
  15. Hermit

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    You trying to say that is Canelo's excuse now?