Golovkin 2 out of his last 3 opponents are: Vanes & Brandon Adams, Is that ok for a P4P boxer?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats the way the sport works. If you want to duck ranked / mandatory opponents to fight semi retired guys from lower divisions , you will lose a belt.
    There is no twisting of the narrative. He didn't want a risky fight so he avoided one. Simple as that. Canelo didn't have to take a risky fight with Jacobs , but he did.
    He could have pulled a Golovkin and fought Joshua Clottey's and Brandon Adams's. lol
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Canelo just did exactly that with Fielding. He had been inactive and wanted to keep busy, so they got Fielding. And it was also to test out the waters at 168. Canelo is a badass and he will likely end up moving up to 168.

    My entire point is that Golovkin chose one top fighter over another. It's a duck but I don't see anything wrong with it. **** happens. Not that I am happy with it.
    ****ing Adams at this point is twice the fight Vanes was. But Golovkin is a P4P elite, and all Adams will ever be is borderline top 10.

    Boxing is imperfect. Golovkin fought Vanes, and it sucked but he did end up fighting Alvarez again. Alvarez fought Fielding and then luckily we are getting the Jacobs fight.
     
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  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    But Canelo didn't duck anybody when he fought Feilding , Golovkin did. There's no equivalency here. Canelo went up to face a top 10 guy with a belt. GGG went down to fight a non ranker who was 2 years on the couch. How is this even an argument.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    That belt was BS and you know it, but thats irrelevant.

    Point is that Canelo could have fought someone in the top 10 in his own division, but he opted for a weak challenge. And now he is stepping up the competition again.
    It's not quite apples to apples, but Golovkin chose an easy stay busy fight over a risky one. Alvarez was there and Golovkin didn't risk it.
    Both Alvarez and Golovkin chose easy stay busy fights.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You keep saying stay busy fight but i don't think it means what you think it means. The purpose of a stay busy fight is to remain active while nobody else is available. Golovkin had plenty options , including his mandatory challenger , so there really is no excuse why he defended his belts against a two year retired Vanes Martirosyan.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    The "excuse" is that he didn't want to risk a potential rematch with Alvarez.
    And he chose to go ahead with the May fight because he didn't want to sit out an entire year.

    He took a safe, stay busy fight while waiting for Alvarez.

    You think Golovkin would have ducked Sergiy if Alvarez wasn't there?
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem was created by Alvarez being suspended. Alvarez should never have been suspended because he didn't do anything wrong. He didn't cheat, he didn't take any drugs, he accidentally ingested contaminated meat in a country well known to have a meat contamination problem. So Alvarez should never have been suspended in the first place, and the rematch in May should never have been cancelled to begin with. But those were the recently updated rules by the NSAC to mandate a suspension upon any positive test of a banned substance regardless of the circumstances. So Canelo really had no choice but to cancel the fight himself because he was facing a hearing from a commision that got pushed back and pushed back and was getting too close to the fight. And if Canelo didn't agree to the suspension fans would have accused him of getting some kind of preferential treatment, of getting around the rules, which was absurd to begin with considering the problem in Mexico and considering it was trace amounts. It was just bureaucratic shenanigans from the NSAC that led to the fight being cancelled to begin with. And had that fight occurred the IBF wouldn't have had any grounds to even demand that its champ fight SD since Canelo was ranked higher and was the mandatory challenger for all intents and purposes. But then after Canelo was suspended, the IBF withdrew Canelo from its rankings while he served the suspension and SD became the official mandatory challenger. Even then, had GGG just waited until September to fight Canelo the IBF wouldn't have enforced the mandatory. It was GGG's requesting of a voluntary defense of the IBF title vs Vanes that prompted the action of the IBF to mandate he fight SD next or be stripped.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    But he could have fought somebody better on that May date , he didn't have to stoop as low as he did. GGG had a reputation of taking on all comers but that clearly isn't true. He's avoiding top guys like Felix Sturm did.
    Sturm didn't want to risk future pay days by fighting little known Golovkin , does that make it ok to duck? Thats the narrative you're pushing.
     
  9. 22JM

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    I guess ggg is going to look like a prime "beast " agian against this bum
     
  10. ZablieJudahnoff

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    He got caught. Period .
    Maybe he hid them tablets in the meat like the muslims eat pork in their houses.
    Bcuz Allah can´t look into the house.
    Wipe the tooth fairys dust out of ur eyes and come to grips with Canelitonis true, dope fiending identity.
    Dayum, **** makes me mad. Honorable boxing warrior Maragarito got slandered and harrassed for alleged bricks in his wraps but Canyello
    get´s a pass.
     
  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    No, no, no. I have said absolutely nothing like that at all.
    I said Golovkin chose one(Alvarez) top guy over another(Sergiy). And of course the nice payday.
    Or don't you think Alvarez was a worthy foe?
    Which do you think was a better fight; the rematch or Sergiy?
    (And who else at MW has Golovkin been avoiding? Prior to HBO's demise that is)

    Sturm ducked Golovkin for the likes of Rondald Hearns and Koji Sato. Sturm could have fought his fellow countrymen Zbik and Sylvester(rematch). Or Pavlik. But he didn't.
    He chose to feast on weak opposition while constantly avoiding his mandatory.
     
  12. HerolGee

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    love it. keep it up.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    they do? wow porkies.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    absolutely, reg belt is BS.
     
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  15. drenlou

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    Definitely
     
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