Golovkin "Canelo is same size as me! Same weight!"

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  1. anders100

    anders100 Active Member Full Member

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    No. Why should he accept a catchweight fight? It's nonsense. The middleweight divison is 160lb, and then the fight should be at 160lb. Canelo is scared, otherwise he wouldn't give that ultimatum.

    I agree. GGG needs a big name, but there isn't anyone in the division. Canelo is the only big name, and he won't accept a normal middleweight 160lb fight, so who is left for GGG? Saunders are ducking him or isn't ready, Eubank isn't ready, Cotto is no thread at all, and i don't see him as a big name at 160lb.

    And i don't accept that ultimatum by Canelo. GGG isn't the problem here, Canelo is. That should be obvious.
     
  2. IsaL

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    You ask why? Let me answer.

    1. He needs a big name, whether itd be Canelo at a CW, or Ward at the next division up, GGG needs to stop acting like boxing revolves around him and do as the true greats did and compromise weight to prove greatness.

    2. GGG is old, he is running out of time, if he is confident in his ability he will compromise something. After all, he's done a very sheitty job with his career, and its time to start making changes to improve his brand and LEGACY.

    Canelo has NEVER gave anyone a reason to think he is afraid of anyone. He's fought everyone, and his resume completely sheits all over GGG's. If anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt its Canelo for constantly fighting high caliber opposition, whether it was moving up or moving down.

    Canelo is to blame for the 155 catchweight, but GGG is to blame for not compromising and making the fight happen. He F-ed up against Ward, he is doing the same with Canelo.

    You don't see a big name at 160, I don't either, and that is why GGG needs to step the fk up (or down) and make a big fight.. Serioulsy, GGG is getting annoying.
     
  3. anders100

    anders100 Active Member Full Member

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    I am a bit ****ed acutally. GGG is the interim champ and should get a fight for the WBC belt, but Canelo obvious won't give him the 160lb fight for the MIDDLEWEIGHT belt. It shouldn't be allowed to fight for a belt on a catchweight limit - and Canelo should get stripped, if he don't accept the fight with the WBC interim champ at the middleweight 160lb limit.

    But Canelo is the man with the money in the MW division, so he won't get stripped at any time. He can be the champ for a long time if he keeps fighting welterweights for a middleweight belt.
     
  4. IsaL

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    The WBC MW title is a complete JOKE. At what weight did Canelo win it aganst Cotto? At what weights did Cotto fight and defend it twice?

    I don't know what is more pathetic, the WBC MW catchweight or Golovstans obsessed with a joke for a title over actually seeing a fight go down between Canelo-GGG.

    Fight fans- Want to watch GGG vs Canelo regardless of title

    GGG fan boys- Would be happy with Canelo vacating so as long as GGG fights for the WBC joke title against another BUM.
     
  5. anders100

    anders100 Active Member Full Member

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    I would favor Ward big time if he fought GGG.

    Mayweather was the one stepping up a weight class for fighting Canelo. Cotto isn't a natural MW, not even close. This was a easy pick for Canelo, and he was a huge favourite.

    I could blame GGG for this, but i don't. If he ducked Canelo for a 160lb fight, then i would blame him. If Canelo just kept fighting in the SWW, then no one would talk about this fight. Canelo was the one stepping up to the MW division, and now he won't fight at the middleweight limit. I really can't blame GGG for this.
     
  6. IsaL

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    Mayweather was a JR. MW champion (154).

    For at least two years leading up to the Cotto-Canelo fight, fight fans were salivating over this match. This fight was bound to happen, and it would have happened sooner but Cotto had declined, MW title or no MW title... It just so happened that Cotto was holding the lineal MW title he won at a CW.

    Wish GGG had the same warrior mentallity to make fights happen.
     
  7. anders100

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    I wished the same. I would love to see GGG fighting Canelo at 155lb or even 150lb. I would also love to see him fight Ward when he still were in the SMW division. I would love to see him fight DeGale or Zurdo at 168lb - but he won't, and i am a bit disappointed about it. I really favor his boxing style.

    But i don't blame him for not taking a catchweight fight. If Canelo really wants this fight to happen for several MW titles, then he should fight GGG at the middleweight limit.
     
  8. IsaL

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    I doubt Canelo is too concerned about silly ABC titles. He's at the point where can fight the best with or without a title. The Amir Khan fight I will give him a pass since he's fought a lot of top opposition in his last fights.
     
  9. anders100

    anders100 Active Member Full Member

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    Serious question. Besides Ward and Canelo, who else is a big name or was a big name, that GGG could've fought in the last 2-3 years in a middleweight catchweight fight or in the SMW? I saw there was some talking about Froch, but i don't know much about that.
     
  10. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither Cotto or Canelo have ever fought at 160, also both moved up to JMW at the same time so I don't get that point.

    Outside of the current fight with Khan, Alvarez has been fighting rated JMWs at 154-55 in fight's nobody considered MW fight's.
    Alvarez-Lara, Angulo, Kirkland were all called JMW fight's and effected JMW ratings all at 155. not MW.

    I get the belt argument but that's really a cop out didn't B.Hop the last guy to fully unify the 160 division earn his final belt in a catch weight vs reigning what WBO 160 Champ Hoya? And didn't Hopkins weigh in at 156.
    Alvarez can fight anybody, so if Golokvin wants it right or wrong he needs to do what it takes.
     
  11. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo is popular but you act like he's god or something truth is he's a B level fighter at best and many would agree that beating Murray is more impressive than Beating Canelo


    At the end of the day the double standards is laughable you critize GGG but what about Canelo fighting a welterweight and making a new weight class ?
     
  12. trumperZ06

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    :lol: YADA...YADA...YADA

    You want to talk about "ANNOYING" ???

    Annoying is listening to you trolls attempting to justify Canelo and this "CATCH WEIGHT" nonsense by disparaging GGG.

    Everyone else in the boxing world agree that GGG is the Middle Weight Champion.

    You guys need to find another boxer to tout...

    This DOG (Canelo) won't FIGHT !!!

    ;)
     
  13. trumperZ06

    trumperZ06 Active Member Full Member

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    :D Yes...

    until the WBC is threatened to have their A$$ hauled into court !!!

    ;)
     
  14. IsaL

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    The truth is that the WBC MW title is a joke and has been well before Canelo got his hands on it.

    GGG is the true MW champion.. I don't see anyone disputing that.

    What's annoying is GGG and his fans thinking everyone should go to him while giving him a pass for not being willing to make any real compromises to actually make significant fights happen.

    The truth is Canelo is a hellbof a lot more proven than GGG.

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  15. vargasfan1985

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    GGG should not have to go to 155 to fight for a 160 pound belt against a guy who currently weighs more than he does. It's so stupid and the fact people are defending Canelo is mind blowing.