Golovkin-Canelo Is SOLD OUT.

Or a mandatory title shot...

 

You just know ASSOL has convinced himself 3G was the one ducking canelo

 

If you're talking about that 8 mill For a fight at 155, It doesn't exist. Some idiotic fanboy who can't keep his favourite fighter's balls out of his mouth pulled it out of his ass to justify his hero vacating his title and delaying a certain fight.

GBP made it clear they didn't want The fight before september of 2017, Canelo himself Said that weight wasn't The issue after he vacated. You can lie, make **** up and talk out of your ass all you want.

 

He's [Ward] been out of the ring for a while and the economics just don't add up now. Gennady has said that he would move out of the middleweight division - if it's a big fight. Andre is certainly a great champion, it's just the chemistry is not there yet for a pay-per-view fight."
-TOM LOEFFLER
May 2015

So in May 2015, three months before the Cotto-Canelo fight was announced, and one month before Cotto made his first MW defense against big MW Daniel Geale, K2 and GGG had already set their mind that they would not be fighting Andre Ward. Reason? "Money".

 

Sold out?! Wonder how much money Tony Weeks, the three judges and the boxing commission will make under the table? If they fail to help El Pollo enough, they might not get paid! LOL!

Here comes El Pollo, suddenly he pecks Golovkin's testicles with his pecker, suddenly Weeks stops the fight...............Bob Bennett tells public that testicle shots were made legal by SOB!

 

Lol

 

I don't disagree with that, where I disagree with you is about 2013 not 2015. You still haven't provided any evidence to support your claim that Golovkin rejected an offer from Andre Ward in 2013.

May 2015 K2 already had their eye on Cotto / Canelo. The fight was already being discussed in November 2014.

 

Im not sure why your stuck on the 2013 comment I made, the point of this conversation was not even if Ward made an official offer in 2013 or not...

The point of this conversation has always been that Golovkin has had the opportunity since 2013 to add a credible name opponent to his resume, but was reluctant to fight Ward unless GGG got all of his demands met.

Same went with Canelo. Ggg needed every demand met for the fight to even happen. Lucky for us Canelo is enough of a draw to be able to give into Golovkin's every demand to lure him into the ring.

Ggg's reason for avoiding Ward:

-Wants Ward at 164 not 168 (but wouldnt do the same for Canelo)
-Doesn't see enough money in fighting Ward

Instead he opted to fight easy nobodies that did nothing for his legacy for 2 million a pop.

Ggg also needed every demand met to step in the ring with Canelo.

Seems like GGG cares more about his money than his legacy, and thats probably why hes had a difficult time drawing customers to purchase his PPVs. Fighters like Pacquiao, ODLH, and Canelo despite having loses sell fights because they have demonstrated their willingness to fight the best and take big gambles.

Anyway, Golovkin finally agreed to fight which is great, but lets not pretend that Ggg makes it easy on himself to add a credible name on his resume. That man has very steep demands, but honestly at his age he knows this is a passing of the torch fight and wants to be compensated and secure his retirement.

 

After the short stick Kovalev and Dawson got on the business side vs Ward in order to make those fights happen, it seems silly to me that you'd hold it against a fighter for standing their ground rather than voluntarily giving Andre every advantage.

Bottom line is neither Andre nor GGG needed to give in to any demands the other had to make a fortune for themselves. Nobody "needed" the other guy whatsoever. So, no compromise got made. It ain't rocket science.

 

GGG lacks a legacy defining fight. While other modern day greats are moving up and down the divisions seeking challenges, Golovkin sits put at 160 waiting for the perfect scenario.

 

Cannot wait - can the "Kin" Kill King Khan Krusher Canelo.

 

I jumped into this conversation because I disagreed with your point about what happened in 2013.

Golovkin did not have the chance to fight Ward until 2015, not "since 2013". I've already proven that there is no reason to believe Golovkin had the Ward fight offered to him in 2013, can you accept this slight correction?

That's true, although it's not the whole reason, one major reason Canelo sells ppvs is because he is Mexican.

You paint a picture of Golovkin having unreasonable / very steep demands which is completely imaginary and has no relation to the true facts. Listen to Oscar De La Hoya, even he disagrees with you:

"Look, it was not that complicated [to get the Canelo-Golovkin deal done]. It was not so difficult. To tell you the truth, all that was needed was to sit down to negotiate. And we did it two or three times, we reached an agreement and the fight was made. All that was needed was to polish some details and, perhaps, the most complicated aspects have been, for example, the issue of who is going to come out first to the ring."

(note that Golovkin conceded on the specific item mentioned).

It's important to distinguish between what you want to believe, not what actually happened.

 

I simply said Ward had made an offer, but I'll accept that no offer was officially made back in 2013.

The fight however was discussed, and it was a subject of great interest with both parties acknowledging it was a good fight to be made.

From everything I have read, Golovkin's side clearly did not want the fight. I'm not even sure how you can put the blame on Ward's team when K2 Promotoer Tom Loeffler is quoted saying: "We've had many discssuions about this [Ward fight]. The priority for Gennady is to fight at MW. There is A LOT more to prove at MW... there are a lot of Champions [at MW]...Matthew Macklin is one of the TOP names at MW but there are a lot of GREAT names. That being said, IF there is a BIG fight at 154 or 168, a compelling fight, that makes sense, he's [GGG] willing to do that....

But if there is a fight with Canelo at 154 or Mayweather at 154. Andre Ward, if that becomes compelling fight DOWN THE ROAD, and if it makes sense. But that's ONLY going to happen by choice, by Abel, and Gennady...

I think a fight like that is a HUGE FIGHT if it became a reality between Gennady and Andre Ward, BUT THAT'S A A FIGHT THAT WOULD TAKE TIME TO MAKE SENSE. IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME... It would not make sense to move up to 168 and fight the top guy.

It would not make sense from a promotional standpoint. Why shortchange both fighters when that could be a monster fight next year.

Canelo sells PPV because he's Mexican? Sure the Mexican fan base is one of the strongest, but Canelo is actually the FIRST Mexican to be a PPV sensation. The other PPV stars of the last 30 years have been a Philippino, an American of Mexican descent, and two Black Americans. So lets give credit where credit is due, many people including Mexicans and MX Americans were skeptical of Canelo, once when he broke into the U.S. market and then again when he lost to Floyd, but people embraced him for his willingness to fight the best, same way DLH managed his career.

Again, De La Hoya and Canelo are not greedy, they have proven to bend over backwards to get an opponent in the ring. MOST fighters are not as generous or as flexible. They paid Cotto 26 million to Canelo's 7 million. They conceded weight with Mayweather. They moved up 9.5 pounds and only asked Chavez to come down 3.5 pounds, they allowe Khan to fight for the MW title at 155.

Golovkin has never made more than 5 million, and in 2013, 2014, and 2015 his biggest payday I believe had been 2 million.. Yet he is DEMANDING 15 million plus PPV upside for Canelo, despite only being able to draw and avg. of 155K PPV buyers. What if GBP and Canelo had told GGG to go **** himself?? He'd be back at fighting subpar comp for 2 million.

When in the history of boxing has a fighter been paid 15 million +PPV when his biggest pay day had been 5 million?

The reason why it wasn't complicated or difficult was because GBP gave GGG whatever was asked to get him in the ring. Plain and simple.

 

Canelo is not 35 going on retirement, he has just entered his prime, has a better resume than most 26 year olds, and still has a good 5-8 year left to continue building his legacy. Let's not be idiots.