Golovkin / Canelo rematch seems unlikely

Actually you were the one that made the initial assertion by stating that TG outlanded Canelo in every round but one. I countered by stating that counting punches is subjective since many of the punches you can't tell if they landed. The camera angle could be bad, some punches are half blocked / half landed, etc.

Further, if I'm not mistaken, you've said in the past that you've gone through some of the rounds and done your own punch counting yourself, and if I recall, you've come up with totals that differ with the official Compubox Numbers, further suggesting that it's subjective.

And we already have seen that the official Compubox numbers are drastically different in round 5 than the live HBO punch stats for that round were, which had Canelo outlanding Triple G.

 

Somebody forgot to update the scoring as it happened? That's surely a wild guess on your part. This is obviously guesswork. We have no clue who counts the punches, whether the punch stat counter sits at ringside, has other angles than we see on TV or whatever the case may be. "Official" Punch stat details are a complete unknown.

Putting that aside for a moment, the data you are presenting for Round 5 is proving better than I ever could how subjective it is:

HBO had it 14-9 Canelo with 15 seconds left in the Round.
The official Compubox Numbers had it 18-14 Triple G.
You had that round 17-13 Triple G.
Artorias on YT had it 17-5 Triple G.

That's 3 completely different totals and perspectives of the same round.

HBO had it in favor of Canelo, Compubox had it in favor of G, you had it similar with the same margin, then someone on youtube saw it completely in another direction. What this shows is that counting punches is subjective and subject to human error, therefore its largely unreliable. There are hard to see exchanges and punches which you have admitted in the past. Depending on what angle is being shown, it can make certain punches harder to see, and can affect the counting. I can remember a punch in round 1 for example that Canelo landed right as the camera switched camera angles and you couldn't actually see how well it landed due to the camera switch. But it was big enough for Lampley to comment on it that it was a big punch. For all we know, the official compubox counter or the person who is counting punches in real-time is seeing the fight from different angles than we are.

It's just very unreliable for anyone to use counting punches to suggest that someone won a round because they counted one guy landing more punches. As you know, there's more that goes into scoring a boxing match than just counting punches. You have to make an assessment as to the quality and the effectiveness of the punches landed.

 

Here is "The Golovkin and Canelo Story:"

Canelo was never in a million years supposed to fight Golovkin. He didn't have big enough balls. Then he did sign to fight him.

He was never supposed to be competitive with Golovkin. An early KO loss for certain and likely never to be the same from the beating.

Then the fight happened. It was close and very competitive but everybody thought Golovkin won by 2 points.

NOW BOTH YOU RABID FAN BASES SIT DOWN AND TAKE YOUR PROPER L's.

 

I didn't speculate. I simply expressed my concern about the numbers not matching up to the final Compubox numbers. The discrepancy just further cemented in my mind how Compubox numbers in general are unreliable. Frankly, I think HBO and / or Compubox should release a statement explaining what happened.

I don't know because I don't count punches nor do I pay attention to Compubox numbers generally. I just know that it's mathemetically impossible to go from 9 punches to 18 punches when you only land 1 additional punch in the remainder of the round.

If you recall, I gave the 5th round to Gennady but that wasn't one of his best rounds in terms of workrate for example. Canelo was outworking him for first half of the round, but I thought Gennady edged it with that big punch with a minute left and with the way he finished the round.

That's the first time I think I've ever heard Alvarez style described as pitty pat. You continue to outdo yourself.

 

Golovkin shouldn't have left it open to a rematch IMO, he's either too past it or simply not good enough.

 

Fishnets will never let that happen.

 

This is getting as bad as Flo-mos vs Pacman fans.

 

ggg doesn’t need that scam artist.