"Golovkin has to move up" -wrong. Lemme cut you off there. He actually doesn't, ever.

The original post.. thread starter hits the nail on the head.

There is NO NEED for GGG to move up... he can finish his career as the MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION and perhaps retire UNDEFEATED !

GGG has 2 or 3 years left able to fight at his current level. By then, he will have $$$ BANKED $$$ enough money for a comfortable retirement.

 

IB, apparently Stephen Breadman Edwards agrees with you on this. He said GGG has 4 big fights at this weight BJS, Eubanks jr, Canelo and Jacobs and around 2018 the boys at 154 will be coming up so more big fights for GGG.

He seems to like GGG alot , says he didnt miss a Golovkin fight since Proska

 

For a fantasy much up, a Case can certaintly be made for either but for the current scene, considering how inexperienced and mediocre(at highest level) the top dogs at 168 (DeGale, Jack, Chudinov, Groves) and none of those guys are so big, It seems more pointless to Call him to move Up now.

Demetrius Andrade and Julian Williams are main canditates to become the rival to push GGG to his limits IMO.

 

Your right he doesn't have to move up he can retire without a single notable opponent on his resume

 

If Errol spence clearly beats kell brook and then golovkin beats spence that would be impressive. Eubank jr is not a signature win on an atg resume

 

GGG needed to test himself against Ward. Now his only shot at greatness and HoF is going to be Canelo.

 

You would say that.. LOL And your basing this off his performance against the slower GGG, who's highest quality opponent was Brook himself.

Lara, Trout, Khan, Cotto > Brook, Porter

Im sure the vast majority of hard core fans here agree that styles make fights. We can also all agree that Canelo and Golovkin fight nothing alike.

Brook isn't a slick fighter like Lara who many felt was Canelo's toughest fight. He also isn't going to stand and trade with Canelo, that would be ridiculous.

Lara fought way more defensive than he ever had against Canelo. Trout did not throw any meaningful shots against Canelo like he did against Cotto. Cotto himself fought almost exclusively on the back foot reducing the impact of his punches, and those who attempted to trade got KO.

I dont see what Brook can do to make a solid case for him. If he sits on his punches he'll pay the price of getting countered. All he can try to do is what Cotto was trying to do and that is out point Canelo. Problem is Canelo has a great and consistent body attack that you will slow down. Only person to beat him was Floyd back when he was coming up. Brook is no Floyd, and Canelo isn't green anymore

 

Ward is HISTORY !!!

Ward's moved up to 175 lbs. and GGG is likely to stay at 160 lbs., so quit TROLLING !!!

 

Only being real. At 35 GGGs resume is pathetic for a supposed P4P fighter. At the end of his career, people will say, only IF GGG would have moved up to 168 and had fought Ward, IF GGG would have moved down and fought elite comp, IF GGG would have compromised weight instead of staying in No-man's land aka as Bumtown. No ambition to test his limits, comformist.

 

Superior...? GTFO lol

Brook's best win is a close decision against Porter.

Khan's resume > Brook's resume

 

He doesn't have to move up. In fact, no boxer has to move up if they can make weight comfortably at their original division.

But the idea for most great fighters is to challenge themselves, and when you've cleaned out a division, the most logical thing to do is go up in weight. This is almost always the case for the truly great boxers in the sport.

I read the OP's statement about there not being any big names at SMW at the moment. I agree, but the idea is to find a challenger who can make it at least a 50-50 fight against the guy. I don't care whatsoever about the name of a fighter.

Now if he was a CW or HW, I can understand him not moving up. But the guy has wiped out a division devoid of any really good talent at the top of it, so why waste his time taking on guys that have no more than a 10-20% shot at beating him?

Can anyone say with a straight face that there's even ONE MW that would be considered a 50-50 fight for him? SO why continue feasting on guys that have no shot against you- don't you want to test your mettle and see how great you truly are?

The list is incessant with great fighters that moved up- going all the way back to greats like Greb/Armstrong/Robinson and in more recent times guys like Jones Jr/Hopkins/Mayweather/Pacman. Look at Mayweather and Pacman- both men could EASILY fight at 140 lbs but they choose to go for the bigger challenges (and probably money fights as well,) at the higher weights.

Anyway Gennady can do whatever he wants, its his prerogative, but if he continues on this trajectory, or should I say on this plateau, he'll never be categorized in the same way as some of those great fighters I just mentioned. For a guy with P4P knockout power like he has, I'm just perplexed as to why he's wasting his precious time at the MW division when he's creeping up there in age.