Golovkin is just not a natural 168 pounder

Pimp C · Nov 5, 2013

kirk said: ↑

I can understand where youre coming from Pimp, but for me the thing is this.

If Broner, Mayweather, Pac, ect.... moved up, thats their choice. Nobody forced them to. And many of the guys you listed moved up because they didnt want to make the weights they were at anymore, or couldnt. The others were just chasing bigger paydays in more prestigious divisions, or looking to make bigger waves in the sport (which usually lead to bigger paydays as well) and many of them were having trouble making the previous weight anyways, or didnt want to bother making the weight anymore (cotto, rios, pac, ect)

Golovkin is at one of boxings most prestigious divisions, and has a chance, however realistic or not, to create a chapter within the middleweight division all his own, and become the new eras first 'great' middleweight. Hes got at least 4 more good years, if he stays healthy.

I just dont understand this notion that Golovkin should leave the division hes absolutely meant for and comfortable at, and has the chance to make a real mark in over the years, because every other fighter jumps divisions, or outgrows theirs (cotto at 140, Rios 130's). So Golovkin has to fight bigger guys then him, because Pac did? Golovkin should go up and lose to people he shouldnt be fighting in the first place, because Cotto didnt want to make 147 anymore? And wound up losing to a fighter he was too small for? (Trout)

Its just holding a fighter whos completely comfortable where he is, to a certain criteria because other fighters happen to do it, in completely different circumstances.

What about Hopkins in his prime? Hagler? Kostya? Andre Ward (as of now). What happened to staying at a division and just ruling it?

Ward has few options left at 68... should he ditch the division and fight Kovalev for that reason? If hes completely comfortable at 168? I dont think so, and I dont get this strong desire to push fighters past where they should be, just to see them fight and probably lose to, fighters they shouldnt be in the weightclass with to begin with.

Its also quite clear that the majority of the people that would rather see Golovkin fight people bigger then him, instead of trying to make a legacy at middleweight, are people who are eager to see him get beat. And its not hard to see that many of the people awaiting his downfall, just so happen to be Mayweather and Broner fans.
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Fair post. I respect your opinion.

Symphenyceo · Nov 5, 2013

Super Hans said: ↑

Are you trying to claim Broner is a small Welterweight....

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=tam2za&s=5#.UnidfVP8eZQ
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Whatever pic you put up is irrelevant...he isnt a welterweight period..he just fights there.

Symphenyceo · Nov 5, 2013

Geraldinho said: ↑

Broner did not jump two weight classes he just stop boiling down. Hes a natural WW just like GGG is a natural MW. Cant compare Broners move up the weights to Golovkin gaining 8lbs of muscle to fight at SMW (a task that would take 9-12months without PEDS). There are legitimate MW champions in Quillin (his resume is on a par with GGG)Barker and Martinez there for him to fight and genuine MW contenders in Murray, Geale and Mora. Why move up? Fight those 6 and by that time the like of Cotto, Canelo and Trout may have moved up and pose him new exciting threats.

People calling for him to move up should consider Ward as well. He's cleared up the division. Wht doesnt he move up and fight the Stevenson, Kovalev and Hopkins of the world.
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:rofl

uppa kut · Nov 5, 2013

Any Fight GGG is in I'll watch!!

Farmboxer · Nov 5, 2013

Yes, I agree!!!

Rock0052 · Nov 6, 2013

kirk said: ↑

I can understand where youre coming from Pimp, but for me the thing is this.

If Broner, Mayweather, Pac, ect.... moved up, thats their choice. Nobody forced them to. And many of the guys you listed moved up because they didnt want to make the weights they were at anymore, or couldnt. The others were just chasing bigger paydays in more prestigious divisions, or looking to make bigger waves in the sport (which usually lead to bigger paydays as well) and many of them were having trouble making the previous weight anyways, or didnt want to bother making the weight anymore (cotto, rios, pac, ect)

Golovkin is at one of boxings most prestigious divisions, and has a chance, however realistic or not, to create a chapter within the middleweight division all his own, and become the new eras first 'great' middleweight. Hes got at least 4 more good years, if he stays healthy.

I just dont understand this notion that Golovkin should leave the division hes absolutely meant for and comfortable at, and has the chance to make a real mark in over the years, because every other fighter jumps divisions, or outgrows theirs (cotto at 140, Rios 130's). So Golovkin has to fight bigger guys then him, because Pac did? Golovkin should go up and lose to people he shouldnt be fighting in the first place, because Cotto didnt want to make 147 anymore? And wound up losing to a fighter he was too small for? (Trout)

Its just holding a fighter whos completely comfortable where he is, to a certain criteria because other fighters happen to do it, in completely different circumstances.

What about Hopkins in his prime? Hagler? Kostya? Andre Ward (as of now). What happened to staying at a division and just ruling it?

Ward has few options left at 68... should he ditch the division and fight Kovalev for that reason? If hes completely comfortable at 168? I dont think so, and I dont get this strong desire to push fighters past where they should be, just to see them fight and probably lose to, fighters they shouldnt be in the weightclass with to begin with.

Its also quite clear that the majority of the people that would rather see Golovkin fight people bigger then him, instead of trying to make a legacy at middleweight, are people who are eager to see him get beat. And its not hard to see that many of the people awaiting his downfall, just so happen to be Mayweather and Broner fans.
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