Golovkin is too small for 168

It's a big difference but GGG can do it and become p4p1 in the world...!

 

You're confusing "natural weight class" with "lowest possible weight a person can make."

Most guys at 154 do in fact weigh the same or more than GGG, but that's because they don't feel man enough to fight at a semi-normal weight.

Besides, Froch, the manliest of all men, weighs the same as GGG yet fights at 168.

 

George Groves said it best. Everybody, including Carl Froch were talking about how great Golovkin is and how scary he would be to fight. The interviewer turned to Groves who agreed Triple G was an awesome fighter but was probably too small to fight at Supermiddleweight and dominate like he does at Middleweight. The guy, like the great Middleweight, Marvin Hagler is a natural middleweight. He is 5 foot 10 inches tall and not real muscular or massively built. Guys like Groves and Froch are around 6 foot 1 inch tall and Ward is also taller and is a huge guy. Have you seen him in a suit calling a fight recently?
The guy looks like he could work part-time as a bouncer and manhandle troublesome 200lb. drunks out of a biker bar. The point is Triple G should just stay at middleweight and make his legacy there as did the great Marvin Hagler. No one slates the Marvelous one for refusing to move up in weight even though Michael Spinks repeatedly challenged him to move up and fight him.

 

^^ This.

People pretending GGG has business anywhere above 160 don't know boxing.

He's 5'10", rehydrates ONLY 10lbs, and has some skinny little legs.

GGG will retire undefeated with 100% KO ratio at MW and lay claim to greatest fighter since 1980.

 

Good enough for 160? You realize that middleweight is probably the 2nd most prestigious division in boxing historically right?

 

Canelo is a middleweight...... He continues to fight over the JMW division limit and has a hell of a hard time making the weight he keeps fighting at.

 

lol this golovturds are almost like pacturds, already making excuses

 

Wrong. http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=532505

 

He's certainly not a small MW and he could definitely compete at SMW, but I completely disagree with your contention in that thread that he could compete at LHW

 

Hey - I ran a poll not long ago regarding his chances vs. Kovalev, and it was close.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=531810

38-33-2. :conf

I don't agree with him being all that competitive with Kovalev, who is a huge and massively powerful elite LHW, or maybe even a Beterbiev type with similar attributes, but the fact is that Golovkin did rather easily stop a couple of current pro light heavyweights in the amateurs. It wasn't like they were preteens when he did so, either, they were more or less grown men.

I do think 175lbs is pushing it, and 168lbs is the more reasonable conversation to be having, but I don't think 175lb is completely insane or anything. (no more so than, say, Mayweather going up to 160lbs to rematch Cotto)

People act like 168lbs is, for Golovkin, bat-shit insane, and it just isn't.

 

Oh nothing wrong with 168 at all. He'd be perfectly fine there. He wouldn't be big at the weight by any means but he wouldn't be at a meaningful size disadvantage once he got adjusted to the weight either.

He would, however, be short. He's already 2 inches shorter than the average top 50 middleweight by 2 inches (fight matrix has these numbers and I arduously double checked them myself which was very, very, very tedious but I had to be sure). He would be nearly 3 inches shorter than the average SMW.

Certainly there are LHWs he could beat, but he'd be giving up far too much to be remotely competitive with the top dogs. The fact that almost half this forum picked him against Kovalev tells me a lot more about the level of fanboyism surrounding him and just how much people buy into the sparring session stories than it does about his actual chances in that bout (which are near zero in my mind).

 

Fair enough. :good

I do, for the record, think 5′ 10½″ is plenty tall for either SMW or LHW (Darnell Boone is an inch and change shorter, for instance, and I could name others who've toppled or wobbled a fair share of sound opposition at either weight) but the point is taken, he's giving up marginal size at 168 but meaningful size at 175.

The leap to Cruiser is where it would become insane. (the way people are currently acting the mere eight-pound leap would be)

 

The point you are missing is that the current elite Supermiddleweights are very tall, just as tall or taller than Lightheavyweight champ Kovalov. George Groves made that point on a British television program months ago. He thought his small stature could present a problem for Golovkin as the big boys at Supermiddleweight are all around six foot 1 inch tall and in the case of Ward, in particular are just much physically bigger. Ward stands eye to eye with Kovalov but seems the more massive guy. GGG is well served IMO to stay in the second most prestigious division and rule it like The Marvelous one did.

 

If Pacquiao and Mayweather can fight guys who have 15-20lb on them, then it's not crazy to assume GGG could fght at LHW (where guys weigh 185-190 in the ring to his 170ish)

It's possible that he might outweigh Froch in the ring ffs.