Golovkin on the brink of breaking Hopkins record Hoppy not eager for GGG to break his record

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Robert Allen never beat 1 person of note, the fact Hopkins had to fight him 3 times says more about Hopkins than anything else.

    Allen was horrible, as was Echols.
     
  2. Farmboxer

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    Golovkin is good fighter, no doubt about it, but he has to fight the referee, judges and boxing commission when he fight Oscar's prize chicken....................
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you are just repeating yourself, aren't you? cut n paste next time.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    no on Antwun. Echols was an formidable boxer, with a case for elite until he got shot in the arm. He certianlty was good enough to scare calzaghe off, so if you think hes horrible, then you don't think much of joe.
     
  5. The Akbar One

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    Allen wasn't horrible, as you can tell from his first couple fights with Hopkins. That an older Allen once again became the number one contender in a crooked organization isn't Hopkins fault. Hopkins had to fight him or be stripped of the belt, right before he was set to fight De La Hoya. And again, the Echols that fought Hopkins, wasn't terrible. That Echols would **** on guys like Stevens, and Lemieux.
     
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    It seems from BHop's comments that he doesn't agree with you , Dino.
     
  7. bluebird

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    just realised WBA didn't sanction Brook fight, what a joke!
     
  8. alexland

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    your post is complete nonsense.

    let's start with your first claim:

    eastman had "reg" in 2007

    no, he did not--not for a single day in 2007 or at any time after.

    Javier Castillejo won the WBA MW strap in july of 2006

    he lost it to Felix Sturm in April 2007

    Sturm held it until March of 2011

    oh, and this fella "eastman" you thought was WBA champ during that time, wasn't even ranked in the top 10 during 2007

    maybe you were thinking of women's figure skating or something...who knows

    now your next little gem of wisdom:

    if 3g wanted a world title belt he could have gone out and won one if he felt capable

    GGG had the only WBA MW strap there was--there was no other world title belt for him to win. As of March 2011, the WBA had no super champion at MW

    prior to that, as i just told you, it was Sturm and it's common knowledge that Sturm would not fight GGG

    need more proof: how did GGG become the WBA super champion? The WBA granted that status to him in early 2014, which they could do because WBA super champion at MW was vacant at that time and had been since March 2011

    in any event, assuming facts are useful to you, happy to help
     
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  9. Odins beard

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    Must have been his loss to Johnson, his draw to Lucas that scared Calzaghe off.

    Tell me what was the case for being "elite" prior to his loss to Hopkins?

    Certainly wasn't his resume.
     
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  10. Odins beard

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    LOL Echols had already lost and drawn to fighters much worse than Lemieux and Stevens. Infact prior to his first fight against BHOP his top win was bloody Brian Barbosa.

    Echols and Allen where on par with Stevens, in no way where they much better.
     
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  11. HerolGee

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    or perhaps joe against middling robin reid scared antwun off.

    i said pre-injury but lets play by your rule -so, one loss outside losing to an elite.
     
  12. Odins beard

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    So he never had a case for being elite.

    Good I'm glad we cleared that up.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    my mistake, misread it sorry. it was joppy in 2001, facing eastman.

    there were other owners of the reg before 3G too. YOU MUST KNOW THIS. Why are you pretending they didnt exist? Everyone can see they did exist. You have to explain why you tried to lie to me, since I am pretty sure that you KNEW you were wrong.

    anytime would be good, cheers.

     
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  14. HerolGee

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    you've cleared up nothing as usual . he was beaten only by elites up to that point, with the exception of johnson.

    an elite is one who loses to just other elites themselves.

    he was building a case for being elite, whether you admit it or not. Good for you that you dont NEED to admit the truth since its there for all to see.
     
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  15. Odins beard

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    Is Chris Johnson and Eric Lucas "elite"?

    LMFAO you say he was only beaten by elites up to that point, with the exception of Johnson, then in the next breath you say an elite is one who only loses to other elites.....

    So he's not elite then is he as he lost to Johnson LMFAO.

    Which victories did he have that was building this imaginary case for being elite?
     
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