Golovkin paid to lose

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  1. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That was my first thought too! :risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo didn't gas "badly" that's an exaggertion. Sure, he gassed, which is understandable considering he was the only one fighting for the first 8 rounds. You're criticizing Canelo for gassing late while giving GGG a pass for doing nothing for 8 rounds. Even while gassed he was still getting the better of GGG besides maybe round 9 which was pretty much a toss-up round and only given to GGG for finally doing something.

    How about instead of criticizing Canelo for gassing late after putting on a clinic for the first 8 rounds, how about criticizing GGG for not showing up to fight, for not throwing caution to the wind as his fans expected him to and said he needed to in order to win. "Senior citizen" didn't have a problem doing that against Murata now did he. GGG fought a boring uninspired fight, many of whom expected him to do better, some GGG fans thought he had a legit chance to win, some predicted a GGG stoppage. Which according to the judges scores was only 1 or 2 swing rounds away from happening despite the unofficial ringside scorer, a GGG fanboy by the way, having it 8 rounds to zip after 0 and expected a wide decision only to see GGG gifted 113-115 x2 absurdly and a favorable 112-116. Just think about it, had GGG done anything in 1 or 2 of those first 8 rounds, he probably would have won a decision, as I stated could very well happen, to which nobody believed was possible.
     
  3. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    I think older/old fights coming to let the money star win is very very common in boxing. People just ignore it, don't bat an eyelid or are too stupid to realise the obvious
     
  4. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    I have absolutely no idea what you and @kirk are talking about i don't even like quinoa
     
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  5. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    And this means its not a fixed fight because...
     
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  6. Ilesey

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    How much was he paid please?
     
  7. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Canelo is a good counterpuncher. I would call his counterpunching quite overrated but its definitely good. Theres always caution when fighting a counterpuncher but being a counterpuncher does not mean the opponent completely stops throwing hard punches and fully extending their arms for 11 rounds (Kovalev, 8 rounds for Golovkin). That's called not even trying. Being shot doesn't mean you can no longer fully extend your arms unless its physically impossible due to injury. Are we all saying most of Canelo's opponents have the same injury in both arms/hands now? Both Kovalev and Golovkin were standing in Canelos range (not like GGG in the first two fights) not fully extending their arms. Kovalev was not reactive to Canelos punches unlike the fights he had immediately prior against bigger and heavier punches in Eleider and Yarde.

    Remmeber Canelo came up two weight classes as well to fight Kovalev. And he wasnt even a knockout artist at 154lbs. But all of a sudden Kovalev is scared of the midgets counterpunches and doesn't throw a single hard punch with intent for 11 rounds. From the mouth of Biden, come on maaannnn. That's absolutely ludicrous.

    Where was the lateral, in out movement? Kovalev simply didnt care to win. There's only two rational explanations 1. Agreement to spar 2. He didnt care or try to win because he cba to train.

    2 would be valid if we hadn't seen blatant trends in other Canelo fights.

    He can gas yeah, but he was still throwing heavy fast looking counters after 7+.
    So he couldn't pull the trigger in the first half but could in the second half. Did he de - age from the first to the second half. Golovkin was pulling the trigger after 8 rounds and not only that he looked pretty quick both hand and footspeed wise. He looked notably faster compared to the earlier rounds. This is despite the quick counterpunching threat from Canello still being there.
    Having no energy now prevents an opponent from throwing any hard shots for all 11 rounds. It really stopped him from fully extending his arms. Even when i had Covid i could fully extend my arms. That just seems like a generic un thoughtful fake excuse for his performance.

    And if its true that he had so little energy to fully extend his arms then what the hell? Canelo should be criticised and fined for fighting such a disabled man in the ring - this is almost if not just as bad as outright sparring because the boxers and promoters are fooling the public making out as if Canelo is fighting a guy who is able to at least sum up a bit of fight back. So either way Canelo is a trashcan fraud here.
    Callum Smith let Canelo plod towards him smacking his arms and elbows. He didn't even try to counter this. He didnt do anything the whole fight.

    I've noticed a lot of these fake sparring fights are really boring to watch as well.
    At least you're open minded
     
  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    @gollumsluvslave also, re being scared to throw. Opponents still threw punches with intent at the p4p brute puncher Julian Jackson (ingle fighter for example).. But a huge LHW is scared to throw ANY extended hard punches at a guy moving up two weight clases ans never been a puncher
     
  9. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Canelo was so scared from washed up old man drama show that they had to pay him off to win? It makes no sense, as Golovkin is on his way out but Canelo still has years left to risk his whole career & legacy if caught. It was basically a disgraceful effort by G, coupled with a shitty new style by his trainer trying to teach an old dog new tricks, lol, at the wrong time of his career. I will also not blame it all on age as Ortiz is older than him on shakier legs, and recently went the whole distance and out hustled the younger man Ruiz. Golovkin seems to not mind swindling fans and I heard he will continue boxing. How? When you can't pull the trigger and even fight half a fight with effort. You gotta at least respect yourself & your fans enough to call it a day if you don't got it anymore. Maybe he can join the senior tour exhibition circuit with Roy and them.
     
  10. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody says: "Golovkin is shot, old and weak. He should retire". If Golovkin is so bad now, why didn't Canelo knock him out?
     
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  11. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    That's not an argument. GGG had nothing to lose in this fight and took zero risks because he was not coming to win. GGG had the opportunity to right the two previous wrongs, and claim all belts at 168lbs. Yet despite this he took zero risks. He was clearly given the fight on the basis that he must lose. Otherwise Canells dodgy criminal team wouldn't have agreed it.

    If he really wanted it, he would have taken at least some risk.
     
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  12. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Just hilarious. I'm not the one putting these fighters on pedestals. You want it both ways. Ggg fights for the right reasons or he's a cowardly little ***** who will take a dive. Pick one
     
  13. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Exactly. It all makes logical sense. the thing that doesn't is the idea he was paid to look like **** for 8 rounds
     
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  14. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You literally didn't say anything there
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joined Aug 24....any guess what banned poster this idiot was? :lol:
     
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