Golovkin & Ring 2018 VS. Ring 1992

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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    '92 must have been one of the strongest years in MW history though.

    Now look at the steep decline in the mid to late 90's, and compare them...

    1995
    Quincy Taylor
    Bernard Hopkins
    Shinji Takehara
    Jorge Fernando Castro
    John David Jackson
    Reggie Johnson
    Joe Lipsey
    Dana Rosenblatt
    Lonnie Bradley
    Julian Jackson

    1996
    Bernard Hopkins
    Keith Holmes
    William Joppy
    Lonnie Bradley
    Jorge Fernando Castro
    Quincy Taylor
    Dana Rosenblatt
    Otis Grant
    John David Jackson
    Robert McCracken

    1997
    Bernard Hopkins
    Keith Holmes
    Julio Cesar Green
    William Joppy
    Lonnie Bradley
    Otis Grant
    Robert McCracken
    Brian Barbosa
    Hacine Cherifi
    Dana Rosenblatt

    1998
    Bernard Hopkins
    William Joppy
    Hacine Cherifi
    Keith Holmes
    Otis Grant
    Antwun Echols
    Robert Allen
    Robert McCracken
    Ryan Rhodes
    Julio Cesar Green

    1999
    Bernard Hopkins
    William Joppy
    Keith Holmes
    Hacine Cherifi
    Antwun Echols
    Otis Grant
    Robert McCracken
    Armand Krajnc
    Dave Hilton Jr.
    Bert Schenk
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    But how so when boxing keeps progressing?

    Ha!
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    But not if he'd fought James' schedule and he'd proved himself with wins over Nunn, Johnson and McCallum etc.
     
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  4. The Akbar One

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    :lol: neither Clenelo, or Canelo would beat Jackson.
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Jackson in 92@160 is one of the worst guys on the 92 list.
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He probably would have been one of the best if better testing was in place back then.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    vs Julian Jackson - Alverez UD
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    vs James Toney - GGG UD

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    , McCallum loses just about every time he fought a top man, and just barely edged his biggest wins.
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    vs Kalambay - Sanuders UD. Too fast

    Segiy D vs
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    vs R. Johnson - Charlo could be the next #1 in a few years.

    R. Murata vs
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    2018 - 4 wins
    1992 - 5 wins
    One draw.

    1992 was a loaded year for the division.
     
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  8. Bonecrusher

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    Can’t agree with this one, McCallum was a master boxer with a granite chin. No way Jacobs is outboxing or stopping him. McCallum destroyed unbeaten Julian Jackson, one punch knocked out a still very good Donald Curry and went life and Death with Prime James Toney. No way he loses to Jacobs, he was still very sharp in ‘92.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    McCallum did have close fights, but he fought top opponents who possessed lots of skill. I'd have to have favoured him over Jacobs.

    BJS vs Kalambay would have been very interesting. A very intriguing match up. I'd have loved to have seen it. But as of yet, Billy has never encountered a boxer like that. I don't know if he'd be too fast. He's very quick, but not lightening quick. I can't see him replicating Nunn's surprise knockout. His fights against Herol and Mike were very technical, and Herol was also quick. Kalambay was a quality operator.
     
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  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good points.

    I agree.

    What about BJS vs Kalambay?
     
  11. Bonecrusher

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    Yeah that’s a close one to call, BJS has gained a lot of respect in my eyes recently, his complete whitewashing of Lemieux was very impressive. However Kalambay is also a master boxer, he’s not the wild swinging brawler that Lemieux was (is). The fight would probably be a bit of a chess match, my first thought was Kalambay but the more I think on it I’m shifting towards BJS.. toss up..
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    lol@ Jacobs beating McCallum :nut:

    Micheal Watson was better than Jacobs and he was chopped down and stopped in 11 barely winning a round.

    Pirog was a very talented boxer like McCallum and he knocked Jacobs out in just 5 rounds.

    Jacobs who stands up tall would get savaged to the body by Mike and possibly taken out late on. Mike was so good he was avoided by Hagler , Hearns and Leonard.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Looks like Keith Holmes or William Joppy were the best for Hopkins to face for 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999.

    I think the middle weight division today offers better contenders.
     
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  14. Tramell

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    Top flight research. I just looked at one of my old magazines to get this going.
     
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  15. Mendoza

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    Master boxers don't lose as often on points as McCallum did. They don't barely edge top 10 guys either.

    Jackson is an over rated, but excellent puncher.

    Curry was an excellent welter, but a bit small and chinny for the middleweights. He also had focuses issues with management and his weight. Great boxer though.

    The draw with Toney is impressive on paper, but James is a defensive counter puncher type, facing an more active guy. I think Toney was a bit off that night