Golovkin should petition the IBF

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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    GGG should petition the IBF to be included with Heiland, O'kane, and Wade/Johnson in a 4 man eliminator for Lemiuex's mandatory.

    Since Oscar's obviously trying to save Lemieux for Canelo, and IBF says uni's take precedence, Canelo will duck GGG by fighting Lemiuex and vice versa.

    So if GGG goes thru and beats Heiland and Johnson for the mandatory to Lemiuex and maintain his mandate for Canelo, one of the two will be forced to vacate or fight him, OR......BOTH will be forced to pay him HUGE stay aside MONEY as long as he maintains his mandate status.

    Essentially, Oscars gonna be paying GGG like 4mil/yr to NOT fight his guys.

    In the meantime, he can use that stepaside money to lure guys like NDam, Eubank and Lee, Saunders, etc into the ring.:lol::lol::lol:
     
  2. hornyrabbit

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    Yeah, they pretty much don't want to get ktfo by GGG. Their stocks would drop pretty low.

    Lets see if Lee - Saunders (WBOtitle) winner will fight GGG but I have a feeling that no matter who wins it they will try to milk that title in UK having some domestic fights.
     
  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Undoubtedly, but GGG is getting NO LESS than a COOL MIL to allow Cotto v Canelo.

    How much more will he get to allow Canelo and Lemiuex if he is mandatory for both.

    And with all that stepaside cash flowing in every 3 months, K2 could use it to enhance the purses for potential opponents.

    MOF.....Daniel Jacobs will be paying GGG soon. He is GGGs mandatory and will be forced to defend against Eubank Jr or fight GGG.

    He'll likely take his beating from Eubank, but Eubank actually has the Huevos to fight GGG.

    And Eubank Jr is gonna be one helluva SMW in the yrs to come.:thumbsup
     
  4. lepinthehood

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    Eubank Jrs feet are set in stone when he fights.
    If he sorts that out he could be okay
     
  5. Maggo

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    He should not talk to the IBF, he should talk to the WBC that they strip Cotto and he fights the next highest contender fot the full WBC title.
     
  6. bluzi

    bluzi Active Member Full Member

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    I like GGG , but its obivous its all about the money , they will take that 1Mil to see the fight on PPV while hoping he will get next , they rather have it this way then to get Cotto to vacate with "Its either i vacate and fight Canelo or the fight wont happen" execuse that will come when Cotto drops the belt to fight Canelo , the matter of fact he aint fighting Cotto next (i think never... but 100% not next) so its either he take teh step aside money or he doesnt but get a title that will make no impact on his NEXT fights.
     
  7. The Shockmaster

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    what if cotto vacated right now? i mean thats what everyone says...."cotto shouldnt hold the title hostage if he isnt going to fight ggg..he needs to vacate"....well i think we know cotto doesnt plan to fight ggg....so what if cotto vacates right now? what does that do? set up ggg/heiland for vacant title? what does that prove? absolutely nothing

    does anyone really care to see ggg/heiland? so what.....oh ggg gets the lineal title?!?! does it matter? not to me....tired of these fights....take a challenge ggg....go get ward....ward will fight you
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did you mean Andre Ward ?

    He's boxing at MW now?
     
  9. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    GGG wants unification at MW. He wants to secure a $$$$ fight.

    Ward has been given 3 offers to fight, and still nothing.

    I suggested to Tom Loeffler that he sent a copy of a contract to Ward and his people and make it public, and Loefflers response was that the fight can be made at any time at any weight between 160-168, but there would be no financial concessions made on GGGs behalf, and venue would be where the most $$$ could be generated.

    3X this offer has been made to Andre Ward and each time, for whichever reason, the fight has not been made.

    IDK if there were testing clauses Ward didnt want to concede to like in the ERod fight when Erod said he would PAY the 90K for the testing.

    IDK if the financials werent right for Ward.

    IDK if the venue was a problem. We simply don't know. GGG doesnt speak good enough English to explain in detail why he and Ward havent fought, but he's clear enough when he's stated for the record that 3X his mgmt has offered him up to Ward and 3X the contract was not signed.

    Leoffler is still holding out hope that Froch is gonna sign, and is even considering drawing up a contract with BHop.

    Loeffler has been silent on the Lara fight. Perhaps the risk/reward isnt worth it, or he simply can not deal away from HBO.

    We do know for fact though, that GGG is ready to entertain counter offers from Roc Nation, and that Froch, Canelo Cotto, and now even BHop can get it when they WANT it.

    Sadly......your'e probably right though. Roc and GBP is not gonna want to have to pay GGG a million bucks each every time they sign a fight.

    Eventually they'll be forced to drop the titles or fight GGG.

    And lets not be unrealistic about this whole deal. Golovkin will have to add muscle to be as effective as a SMW as he as a MW. He's not gonna change his style to that of Andre Dirrel or James DeGale, becoming a slick boxer.

    His early career was handled as poorly as it could have been.

    He should have started his career at NO MORE THAN WW, and torn his way thru the 147-160lb weight classes prior to his move N to 168.

    There'd be NONE of this BS talk about how he's picking on smaller guys or afraid to fight bigger guys.

    Essentially, he'd be Timothy Bradley but fighting MWs in his prime, rather than continuing to boil down to 147.

    That said.....if GGG beats Heiland and Johnson before the year is out, or on of them and Froch or BHop or Ward......he'll have had a great yr.

    And 2016 could see him on HBO ppv vs WBC/IBF Champion Canelo Alvarez in a fight that would EASILY do 1 million buys and net each fighter in excess of 15 million.

    For that kindof $$$$ Alvarez will find himself telling Oscar......Ive already had my cherry popped. I wanna make that $$$ now.:good
     
  10. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's a big boy. Strong and has as solid a beard as they come.

    He's also learning on the job.

    I think his footwork will get better over time.

    And he's already WBA #2.

    One fight away from a mandate with GGG.

    But they will likely strip Jacobs for refusing to fight GGG and then Eubank will get win the vacant title, or automatically be upgraded to regular champ, then he'll have 18 months to wait out GGG and get better. :think
     
  11. hornyrabbit

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    Normally GGG vs Heiland would be the natural fight for the wbc title if Cotto /Canelo refuses to agree on fighting GGG. It's not Golovkin's fault that Cotto/Canelo would not fight him.
     
  12. hornyrabbit

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    Look for this video on y/t and embed it here. Can't post links as a newbie.

    "Miguel Cotto Chokes In Post Fight Interview when asked about GGG - Gennady Golovkin"

    :D
     
  13. The Shockmaster

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    yeah loeffler should make an offer to ward and make it public...but he wont...they are all talk....they say they make an offer and theyll fight between 160-168.....its no better than arum claiming floyd was doing the ducking for 5 years....

    what does having the lineal title do for ggg? secure better fights? no it doesnt....him getting the lineal title off of heiland does nothing to enhance ggg....it does not make him more appealing to anyone
     
  14. Hotsauce

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    GGG just responded saying he never said that about ward
     
  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can shiit all over Hagler resume too.

    But being the go to MW enabled him to lure LWws up to fight him.

    GGG just using the old time example. Same as BHOP done to lure LWs up to fight him