Golovkin v. Hagler's opponents

You guys are forgetting Hagler was sat on the sofa getting fat at the same age Golovkin just fought one of the best P4P fighters on the planet.

I'm not overly impressed with Golovkin's performance, he's shot IMO but he still deserved the win. Most fighters when over the hill end up getting battered when facing fighters of Canelo's quality at that point in their career.

 

Age is just one part of the equation and in this case tells very very little of the story.

Hagler fought 14 years as a pro.
Golovkin is on 11 now.

Hagler had 67 fights.
Golovkin has 38.

Hagler was fighting Hearns, Mugabi and SRL at a stage Golovkin has not yet reached.

Hagler was P4P number 1 in boxing at a stage Golovkin has not yet reached.

Hagler was put thru miles more wear and tear than Golovkin will probably ever reach.

 

Golovkin had something like 400 amateur fights before turning pro pretty late which must've put years of mileage on his body.

 

Jesus! who let the Tyson fan back on here? Ha,ha

Enjoy your vacation, buddy?

 

Age counts, you can't sugar-coat it all you like but it matters.

You're forgetting those few hundred amateur fights he had.

You're also forgetting Hagler was bested a few times, Golovkin has never been defeated.

 

Yes thanks, I bet it's been a Tyson spunk fest whilst I was relaxing on my hols........

 

Golovkin is definitely old for the style of fighting he uses.
He's had plenty of wear and tear.
I don't rate him as high as Hagler but he's a quality fighter.
Alvarez impressed me too. I didn't expect him to do quite as well.

 

Age is one factor. While Golovkin was fighting loads of amateur fights Hagler was battling the likes of Monroe x 3, Bobby Watts times a couple, Eugene Hart, Benny Briscoe etc.

Hagler's only really been bested by Monroe and SRL for me. He took the hard road early and picked up a legitimate loss along the way. The hard early years made him what he was really.

I'm not discounting Golovkins amateur road but thrusting forth an age only agenda was never going to fly.

 

Every fighter ages differently, he looks shopworn for whatever reason. You can't hide from father time, he ain't going to improve that's for sure. Like I said, it's a shame he missed out on the big fights when at his peak.

 

you are excusing him for not beng very good?

 

GGG looks much slower at age 35, and was robbed into a draw last night.

 

Not very good but still beat Canelo, alright then.....

 

3G would have problems with any elite on Hgalers resume, hes looking at a draw or loss to each of them.

thats leonard, magabi, duran, hearns, antuofermo, minter.

Thats because the fact of the matter is that 3G has just drawn with an elite. The evidence is doesnt support him winning. Thats is all the evidence we have on the matter, since that is the only elite/probable/possible elite that 3G has fought in his career.

Now if he'd fought another possible elite, we might be able to say different.

Hopefully we wont get any "But uhhh Jacobs is jus like Hagler hurhurhur" replies here like we did last time.

 

I actually think minter is a far more accomplished boxer than many think.we saw him go against his nature and try to pummel hagler and he got torn to shreds.minter was a smooth slick boxer with a very respectable punch.a lot of his losses were on cuts in fights he was either winning or competing even in.alan has also fought a far far higher calibre of foe ...ronnie harris was better than jacobs, finnegan,antuofermo are superior to the rest .brook was ggg"s best foe up to that point..

I could see minter giving GGG his hardest fight (pre canelo) but eventually over powering minter and forcing a cuts stoppage.

Hearns has a v good chance if he can just box but MW hearns liked to fight....reluctantly i pick GGG to stop tommy ,i say reluctantly as i can see how tommy can take it.

Mugabi is a hard fight but GGG knocks him out.likewise roldan would have his moments and take some putting away.....the pattern here is pre canelo these guys are all harder opponents than anyone GGG has fought in the modern era.so far i have him winning every one.....GGG beats hamsho and antuofermo handily....

Duran is the ace in the pack.the 1983 duran had the slick moves and technical boxing to beat GGG and i think he will...his style favours roberto it will be a hard fight but duran nicks it

The 1987 srl gets outpointed in a similar fight to the hagler 87 one except GGG lands more often hits harder in this one and splits rather than loses the first four

 

So what?