Golovkin vs. Roy Jones Jr. @ 160 lbs both in their prime.

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  1. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    it's easy to corner a slow guy with no pop and ear-muff defense
     
  2. BlizzyBlizz

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    Damn, another alt!:lol:
     
  3. Bobthepen

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    I dunno. I always thought Jones had a tough night against a faded 40 year old McCallum at light heavy. McCallum was a little too smart to fall into Roy's traps and caught him when Jones' back was to the ropes.
    Can't help but feel the McCallum of a few years earlier would have given him hell at 160 - with greater pop than at 175.
     
  4. AnotherFan

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    I don't think Joe Calzaghe (46-0) could have stood up to Roy Jones Jrs offensive abilities. Roys speed is at least on the same level, and there would be too much power, while the chances for Joe to KO or stop Roy are close to zero. Joe maybe had the ability to win rounds but the price to pay would have been too high. Great power can make tough-as-nail boxers act like scared rabbits. It's called survival instincts, and we all have them. My take is that Joe would have had to chose between winning some rounds and getting knocked out in the process, or fighting catiously, and lose on points. So you and me make the same ****yze here.

    It's not like I can know for sure, but that's what I believe.

    Glen Johnson would have fought the same. He likes to be close up and fighting it out, and he's good at it. The question is if Roys offensive abilities in his prime would be too much for Glen to handle, as Roy could throw power punches even with little space to spare. To be honest, I haven't seen enough of Glens fights to tell. If Roy got out of the tight spot and stepped on the gas, Glen could be sprawled before you know it. A pressure fighter actually needs to be in Roys face constantly, or Roy would get a rhythm going.
     
  5. Loudon

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    Roy has always claimed that he was a natural SMW.

    He had great power at MW, but the majority of his fights were TKO's against overmatched opponents. He never went head hunting for knockouts. He was content to take his time until the opportunity presented itself.

    I think if he could have stayed at MW, we'd have seen many more. Two of his best knockouts at MW, were against Art Serwano and Thomas Tate.

    Serwano:

    http://youtu.be/wvMRnzvvhQY


    Tate:

    http://youtu.be/z2QowQdrXeU
     
  6. AnotherFan

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    I don't think Roy had too many strategies to play out. He ended up against the ropes because it was his style to wither the inital assualt and then retaliate. Late in his career, when he was dominated by Glen and Joe, he resorted to this tactic as well, but he wasn't able to fend his opponents off any longer.

    Roy vs Golovkin boils down to other things than Roys choice of gameplan.
     
  7. Loudon

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    Exactly.

    In facing Roy, he may have fought cautiously due to Roy's offense.


    :good
     
  8. AnotherFan

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    This much is true. It's possible that Roys counterpunches, speed or power would have thrown Golovkin of his game.
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

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    If you really saw what you just wrote, then that's just down right pathetic :lol:
     
  10. Loudon

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    Great an*lysis. :good

    I agree with pretty much everything you've said.

    I've got a lot of respect for Glen, but I think he was in the right place at the right time. Tarver's defeat crushed him mentally IMO, and he took the fight with Glen to eradicate the loss. Merk should never have let him sign for the fight, but his ego had taken a pounding. By all accounts, he hardly trained for Glen and just went through the motions. But you have to give a huge amount of credit to Glen for the tactics he employed. But you have to start asking questions when a guy who dominated Roy for nine rounds before knocking him cold, had three hard fights with Clinton Woods etc.
     
  11. Loudon

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    Most definitely.

    The MW version of Mike would have given Roy hell at MW, and could have beaten him.

    Mike was special.
     
  12. AnotherFan

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    Well, that hook came out of the blue, and Serwano is as chocked as if he suddenly saw Jesus.


    Another hook, I notice. Roy was really keen on using hooks and uppers. Makes sense, since textbook straight punches will hit air against a mobile target.
     
  13. Loudon

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    Roy would have had great respect for GGG's power, and I believe that he'd have tried to have backed him up, rather than countering him.
     
  14. Loudon

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    :good
     
  15. Loudon

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    The punches that cause the most damage, are the ones that you don't see.

    Roy could get away with throwing lead power shots against almost anyone.

    From what I've seen of GGG, Roy would have been able to have landed those types of shots on him.