Golovkin vs the guy whose only fight at world class was a loss

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Half the GGG fanboys are hyping the s*** out of Eubank Jr. trying to act like he's a real threat. Because they want people to think CEJ has a chance so when GGG beats him it will seem like an accomplishment, meanwhile Lemieux and Stevens both could probably KO CEJ cold.

    The other half of GGG fans dislike him and see him for what he is, an average unskilled fighter who's lost against his first real opponent, and he did lose 8-4, regardless of the incessant revisionist history of the scorecards. And we rightfully think he has zero chance and this is a step down of sorts.

    There's the legit delusional CEJ fanboys that think him holding and clinching the hell out of Chudinov with a complicit dirty ref letting him get away with it, and wins over two Euro level fighters in Spike and Blackwell means he's an ATG and a future world beater, when the reality is, he's more unproven than Murray and Macklin before their matches with Martinez. They've bought the hype hook line and sinker.

    Then there's the haters of GGG who will hype anyone fighting against him, because they want to see GGG lose so badly it compromises their mental faculties, often there's a racial component to their anti-GGG rage.

    And then there's the anti-GGG propagandists who would find a way to denigrate anyone GGG is facing no matter what, he could challenge Wladimir ****ing Klitchsko and these mother****ers would say he's feasting on Fury's leftovers.:lol:

    Somewhere along the way people stopped being fans with opinions and became spin doctors and propagandists.:-(
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gtfo, trying to make it sound like he's fought elite opposition. If he fought guys like Zurdo, Degale, Jack, Dirrell etc, he would get much more credit for me than what he is doing now.
     
  3. Bad Boy Bill

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    :think
     
  4. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    CST you are no better than anyone else with your revisionist propaganda, Chudinov got schooled 11 zip and stopped.

    You are a known CEJ hater, but I agree with most of what you say.

    However if GGG gets schooled I expect everyone to get off his nuts and CEJ will be nowhere near their p4p lists even though a great many have GGG top 5 at minimum if not no.1

    Where do you rank GGG p4p and where will CEJ be if he wins?
     
  5. Bad Boy Bill

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    Zurdo has only beaten Abraham though. Why is he any more deserving than Eubanks?
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He wouldn't get one ounce of credit from any of you, and you know it. Kovalev doesn't even get any ****ing credit from you for beating Hopkins and Pascal, even when the majority of posters give him credit for it.
     
  7. Bad Boy Bill

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    Now that's a big problem. Hopkins was still preforming at a very high level, and Pascal was one of the best fighters to fight at light heavyweight other than Stevenson. How he got no credit for those wins is re****ed.
     
  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wtf, I give Kovalev loads of credit for Pascal, but not for Hopkins because the dude was 50 man cmon. How the hell was a 50 year old man supposed to beat a prime Kovalev. Who is Kovalev going to be beating when he is 40 let alone 50?

    I'm on record right now, if he beats at least 2-3 of those guys by the end of his career, he will get far more credit from me. Not wanting the Ward fight will always taint his legacy, but if he at least dominates 2 weight classes and beats bigger guys his legacy wont be completely tarnished.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Chudinov was ****ing molested, the majority of the people in the RBR were calling for the ref to penalize CEJ, its you who's the revisionist, just like you all have been trying to convince people Saunders lost, at the very least BJS win the match 7-5, there is little room to argue for a draw, and NO SCORER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND COULD FIND 7 ****ING ROUNDS to give to CEJ.

    GGG's position on my rankings will be unaffected when he disembowels that snotty richboy c*** of a human being CEJ.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Abraham is far better than anyone Eubank beat. He handled Abraham with easy, the same Abraham that beat GGG's best opponent. Zurdo is a big kid, and will have a size advantage on GGG too. I want to see how GGG's power and skills translates in higher weight classes against bigger guys.
     
  11. james5000

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    Fury could have lost to McDermott, the fight was deemed one sided by many here. Didn't stop him from going on to beat a far greater champ than GGG in Wlad Klitschko. Fury's best win was Chisora at that, not much better than a Chudinov or Spike tbh!!!!!
     
  12. CST80

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    You and I fought an entire night about Kovalev deserving more credit for his wins while you were hyping Stevenson and bashing Kovalev and calling him a racist. I'm pretty sure most of those threads were unfortunately deleted.:lol:

    As far as you giving GGG credit, I'll hold you to that.:deal
     
  13. Bad Boy Bill

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    You complain about Hopkins being 50 years old, but Hopkins is still competing at a higher level than Abraham. I don't think Hopkins would have struggled as badly with fighters like Dirrell or even Murray. Hopkins was a great win for Kovalev.
     
  14. "TKO"

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    Get out of here with that common sense approach, you're on the wrong forum!!!
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're an idiot. I never said Zurdo has better wins than Kovalev. I've always said that Kovalev has a decent resume, much better than little g's. Zurdo is still 24, at 24 most guys dont have wins over world champs like Abraham. Zurdo is only growing and getting better. The Hopkins win was an okay win. Chad Dawson easily handled Bhop 2 years before that, and Bhop was only fighting guys like Murat and Shumenov. I just dont rate it that high, I hold the pascal 1 win in higher regards.