Golovkin would of gave Eubank jnr one hell of a beating

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  1. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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    Eubanks Jr is Euro bum level at best.
     
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still can't believe no ones really mentioning eubank can't throw a straight right hand...due to a long standing injury. I know we all enjoyed seeing him beat up at the weekend. But come on...no one will get much success without the straight right hand. You can't get inside without being comfortable fighting on the outside. No one can be comfortable on the outside without a straight right hand.

    How do you even stand in range with just a jab or a hook/uppercut from too far out. That's where eubanks problems coming from. Can't believe no one including all the pro,s/ex pro,s have even mentioned it.

    He is neglecting stuff in training...but it would,nt do him much good anyway without a straight right hand. Can't really fight on the outside without it. Can't really stand in range without it. Can't control the distance without it. How do you jab your way in at that level...when the opponent knows he has to move to a right uppercut or hook from the jab. They also know he has to get on the inside. Its too predictable.

    Guys get on the inside...by being unpredictable about going on the inside. Eg. Fight outside. Stay outside. Transition to inside. Back to outside...outside for a bit.

    Eubanks very little option. Can't fight outside. He's too desperate to get inside cause he has to. At world class level its too predictable.

    His careers at the top levels over till he gets that right hand fixed. Or at least against any guy that knows how to control distance.
     
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  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. You've mentioned it a few times.

    2. I don't think most people really care that much. The fact is Jr has certain flaws and weaknesses which mean Golovkin would beat the hell out of him. Why he has those flaws is debatable and not really all that relevant. If you can't throw a certain punch, you can't throw a certain punch, if you have poor footwork, you have poor footwork, if you have a weak chin, you have a weak chin.

    3. How do we even know how much truth there is in this elbow theory?
     
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  4. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't know what you are smoking but eubank was throwing tons of right hands but they were missing stop it stop trying to find excuses for the punk


    The reality is eubank is a fraud with only athleticism but no boxing iq or skills whatsoever he cant even set up his shots
     
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  5. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    its not true the way he swings his right hands destroys that argument
     
  6. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because he doesnt throw it straight. I think your right that no one cares. They just want to see him lose...pretty fair considering how much they,ve talked. Golovkin would beat the hell out him with or without a right hand. He doesn't have the natural ability...got where he's at with hard work. I still say that straight right dictates his problems. Amazed not more people see it.

    You can have the best footwork in the world your still gonna struggle to get inside without being able to fight on the outside. You can't fight on the outside successully trying to get inside without a straight right. Footwork won't help eubank.
     
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  7. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you're wrong in your opinion that nothing besides fixing the elbow will help. Of course footwork etc will help, improving in any area will help. Might not fix all your problems but it will help. The more strengths and less weaknesses you have the better.

    It's not just about wanting to see him lose, it's about pointing out the weaknesses. It doesn't really matter why the flaws are there as long as they're there. It doesn't matter why Khan has a weak chin, the fact is he has a weak chin etc.

    Even with a fully functioning elbow Eubank Jr might still be poor technically and have a low ring IQ for all we know.
     
  8. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He can't extend his right arm due to a long standing injury. Hence the reason he hooks or uppercuts with it. Hes had that same injury for years now. He can't throw a straight right hand.

    They can't train him fundamently without a straight right hand...people buying into to much talk about him training himself. Davies and eubank senior....been in the game long enough to know the score.

    After all the critiscm...he goes back in the gym the next day. And trains the exact same way hes always done. No one with half a brain cell would do that. There doing that because they know he has very little option of success training him fundamentally with no straight right hand.

    People need to visualise trying to fight without a straight right.

    Not making excuses for him...I don't really like eubank all that much tbh. I m a big groves fan.
     
  9. khaosai galaxi

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    A beating where Senior jumps up to the ring with a white towel.
     
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  10. bbjc

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    They do neglect all these weaknesses. But they do it because it would,t do him all that much good anyway without a straight right hand. Let's imagine he had good footwork against groves. Bearing in mind groves controls distance with the jab, his footwork and straight right hand. Groves isn,t the easiest to get inside on at least till he tires anyway because he excels with these three things.

    How do you get on the inside knowing you can't really fight on the outside without a straight right.

    People keep saying its his footwork. What do they want doing with his footwork. The truth is you don't need great footwork to get inside. His footspeeds a bigger problem. But people explain how he can get inside...with this great footwork. What do they want him to do with his feet. He can cut the ring off better. But that's
    about it at some point he has to get in range. Against groves...with a right hand waiting for him when eubank can only really jab. He has to either come in throwing from too far out. Or come in to range to get that straight right fired at him with just a jab or a hook uppercut from still too far out.

    The problem is eubanks desperate to get inside. He has to get inside. Its predictable.

    Look at froch...its the problem with eubank not being able to fight on the outside. Froch would happily sit on the outside. And take his moments to get on the inside. Its that not knowing when their coming inside that causes the problems for opponents. With eubank..hes struggling to transition because they know he has to transition.
    Your right in what your saying why does it matter etc. Its just irritating that absolutely no one mentions it. If embank went away and worked on all these flaws. Without a straight right hand he,ll still struggle to transition onto the inside.
     
  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You're an absolute joke.

    The forum/village idiot.
     
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  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he had a better jab, footwork, defence and timing he wouldn't be quite so screwed on the outside. If he can't throw a straight right and needs to fight on the inside he has to use his jab, footwork, timing, feints and defence (blocking, slipping, bobbing and weaving). I don't remember Mike Tyson throwing a lot of straight rights and it was predictable that he would be looking to get inside so it is possible. Obviously not being able to throw a straight right is a serious problem for a boxer (assuming that is there is a legitimate physical reason why he can't and I'm not convinced there is). However Eubank Jr just doesn't look to be a very good boxer to me, I've seen nothing to suggest otherwise. Even if his elbows were fine I still think he loses to the likes of Golovkin, Groves and Saunders.
     
  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Long standing injury?

    He damaged his elbow before he was due to fight one of his favorite stationary punchbags in Ommy Langford.

    Before that there was no reports of any issue regarding any ''long standing'' injury. Just a clutching at straws excuse from you, whoever you are. Maybe one of his publicists who are trying to ensure there is damage limitation on his reputation online since he cares so much how many online followers he is able to attract.

    The fact is he is a terrible boxer, with no idea how to move around the ring, no idea how to set traps and no idea what it takes to become an elite level all round fighter.

    He's got no where to go except back to chasing domestic level bums like Duran and Tony Jeter or go on prize fighter with other sluggers and brawlers who swing as though they've just finished a pub crawl. Anything above that level and he is asking for brain damage with the way he leaves himself open.

    He should be on his knees thanking his father every day for dropping that pen before he went ahead with signing to fight GGG, otherwise his elbow would be the least of his concerns, because he'd be on the drip.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

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    i wonder if eubanks can develop legs like browne had at 38 against chaggerz. .Browns had very good movement in that fight , very surprising at the time stephanie
     
  15. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't buy that excuse either.

    There doesn't look to be too much wrong with his ability to throw punches in this video.

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