I shouldn't have to. But Corrales, Cotto, Gatti, Baldomir, Pac all lost to fighters other than Floyd. Does this diminish Floyd as a fighter? No. It's said that you have to make a thread about a fighter losing when he's only ever been beaten by the best of the division. Yet you hang off the ***** of US hype jobs like Andre Dirrell.
LOL @ Gatti and Baldomir. You know that those are not his best wins. GGG's resume is an utter joke. His best/second best win lost to 2 shot boxers. GGG should move up to 168, Abraham and Groves are not even top 5 SMW, and Groves handeld Murray with ease.
How is Groves shot? He had 2 close fights with Froch, was up in the first fights and was up by 2 on one card and down by 1 on the other two cards in the rematch. He then went on to lose a close decision to Jack, all this whilst he was with a trainer who he didn't gel with. Groves isn't shot at all. I know Baldomir and Gatti aren't his best wins but I guarantee if you post Floyd's top 5 wins they all will have drawn or lost to other fighters inferior to Floyd. Again you are not a fan of the sport,fans of the sport don't mock fighters like Murray who is a solid fighter and gives his all and has only ever lost to the best. Throw into the mix both Sturm and Martinez got a gift against him.
Groves has looked AWFUL since Froch 1. Are you telling me that the same Groves fought the French guy and Jack? GTFO golovkin nuthugger. You'll do anything to make excuses for GGG's awful resume. The fight wiht Jack was not close, you can go back to the vcash betting, and the rbr for this fight I put nearly 3k vcash on Groves, Jack won 7-8 rounds of that fight. I never said they havent lose to boxers inferior to floyd. Im saying they havent lose to 2 shot to **** boxers. One that had his career basically ended by Froch and has looked awful since, and the toher being 36 and getting schooled all 12 rounds by Zurdo. Martinez was COMPLETELY shot. Funny how people give Cotto absolutely no credit for beating Martinez, but for Murray he was ROBBBED when it was still a close fight. I scored it for Murray, but this is the same Martinez who did not win a second against Cotto.
So if Froch ruined Groves as you say,could we not also say that Golovkin ruined Murray? Golovkin was never once troubled by Murray. If that's the case Abraham beat a shot Murray,as did Groves. I see the fanboy muck is being thrown now as you've realised you're taking ****. It's amazing how I'm the fanboy,yet your name is your favourite fighters managers name. Get a grip Murray is a good fighter,I don't recall anyone saying he's great.
No, there's a huge difference. Groves was chatting **** the whole time before this fight, and then he ended up getting knocked out unlike Murray who got tkoed. Groves/Froch was a fight Groves thought he could win it wasn't a GGG/Murray situation where GGG was the 50/1 favorite. Froch took Groves soul in front of 80k people. Murray is solid, dont get me wrong. But solid doesnt cut it as one of your top 2 wins with the amount of hype Golovkin fans like yourself and his team try to give him.
CST, There will always be scum like this in any forum. He is someone who thinks they are being funny , drunk , or truly unpleasant remains to be seen. But this kind of rubbish needs nipping in the bud to make sure it does not affect normal boxing enthusiast's like yourself.
It would look better for his resume if Murray went on to take a title but it certainly doesn't harm his resume. Murray was a legitimate top 5 MW at the time and had pushed Martinez and Sturm all the way. It was still a good victory.
The reality is no one can drop let alone stop murray no ONE 1 Groves hit a shopworn murray with everything he could but murray still fought back
Groves gave Froch 2 tough fights,knocking him down and repeatedly hurting him. Groves wasn't a top 5 fighter and still isn't. Plus Murray is fighting at a weight which isn't his natural. As for Golovkin's resume I've said it's very similar to that of Hopkins,solid but not spectacular. Obviously Hopkins had the victories over the smaller fighters in Tito and DLH,but they had the ***** to fight Hopkins. Something that cannot be said for Cotto and Canelo.
COME ON who the hell can stop murray NO ON EXCEPT ggg GROVES HIT HIM WITH EVERYTHING AND MURRAY STILL FOUGHT BACK GGG knocks him down 3 times and stops him and murray never dared to even throw power shots
Groves had his soul taken away from him. He has not looked the same since. Abraham is not a natural 168 pounder either. What's with the excuses though? He obviously felt more comfortable at 168 since he moved up rihgt? Hopkins gets most of his credit for what he did LATER on in his career. At 40+ beating guys like Pavlik, Pascal etc.
Hopkins Hopkins hopkins! Keep saying hopkins like it means something...uh realize Hopkins became a legend by taking in the best at 168 and 175......keep talking about his mw resume....if Hopkins stopped fighting after his mw days he wouldn't be nearly as regarded That's what u Lil g fanboys refuse to understand ....but u just keep saying "hopkins" desperately trying to attach Lil gs name to his .... Ellerbe...there's no point going back n forth with these foolish dweebs....they just go around and round in circles and they'll never admit anything wrong with Lil g.......they'll just keep telling u how cotto and Canelo are pansies ....and how u cant duck anyone not in your weight class