Golovkin's real amateur record.

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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember a thread on here that had a link to amateur boxing records and somebody posted a thread to Golovkin's. It didn't have his entire record but his record in his final 90 fights was roughly 70 wins 20 defeats including a loss to Andre Dirrell which he avenged. Does anybody have a link to that thread or just the page.

    I'm not dissing Golovkin either because I think he is a great in the making, has a stellar amateur resume and his pro resume isn't as bad as some make out either plus he has been ducked a lot.

    However I do believe the 345-5 record is a lie.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You talking about this one? I've never seen one saying he lost 20 times. Says he has 8 loses on here.

    http://amateur-boxing.strefa.pl/Records/Golovkin_Gennadiy.html

    Date Weight Name Team Result Venue Event Details

    2000-10-?? 67kg Paweł Głażewski POL W RSC 4 Frankfurt, Germany Brandenburg Cup Semi-Final
    2000-10-08 67kg Rolandas Jasevicius LTU W 10:3 Frankfurt, Germany Brandenburg Cup Final
    2000-11-5/6/7 63,5kg Hao Yen Kuo TPE W RSC 3 Budapest, Hungary World Jr Champs Preliminaries 1/16
    2000-11-8/9 63,5kg Alexander Renz GER W 26:7 Budapest, Hungary World Jr Champs Preliminaries 1/8
    2000-11-10 63,5kg Benjamin Kalinovic CRO W 21:10 Budapest, Hungary World Jr Champs Quarter-Final
    2000-11-11 63,5kg Evgeniy Putilov RUS W 24:10 Budapest, Hungary World Jr Champs Semi-Final
    2000-11-12 63,5kg Maikel Perez CUB W 30:17 Budapest, Hungary World Jr Champs Final
    2001-03-02 67kg Radzhab Shakhbanov RUS W 10:4 Usti, Czech Rep. Grand Prix Quarter-Final
    2001-03-03 67kg Petr Barvinek CZE W RSC 4 Usti, Czech Rep. Grand Prix Semi-Final
    2001-03-04 67kg Mohamed Sabeh Taha ISR W 20:8 Usti, Czech Rep. Grand Prix Final
    2001-05-21 67kg Soo-Young Kim KOR W RSC 3 Osaka, Japan East-Asian Games Quarter-Final
    2001-05-23 67kg Chi Wansong CHN W RSC 3 Osaka, Japan East-Asian Games Semi-Final
    2001-05-26 67kg Daniel Geale AUS W 15:3 Osaka, Japan East-Asian Games Final
    2002-03-07 71kg Raimondas Petrauskas LTU W RSC 3 Halle, Germany Chemistry Cup Quarter-Final
    2002-03-08 71kg Lukas Wilaschek GER W 20:9 Halle, Germany Chemistry Cup Semi-Final
    2002-03-09 71kg Damian Austin CUB L +8:8 Halle, Germany Chemistry Cup Final
    2002-04-10 71kg Suriya Prasathinpimai THA L 22:19 Bangkok, Thailand Kings Cup Final
    2002-06-?? 71kg Javid Taghiev AZE W 19:8 Astana, Kazakhstan World Cup dual KZK-AZE 16:8
    2002-06-?? 71kg Foster Nkodo CMR W RSCO 3 Astana, Kazakhstan World Cup dual KZK-CMR 24:0
    2002-06-?? 71kg Damian Austin CUB W 6:4 Astana, Kazakhstan World Cup dual CUB-KZK 14:10
    2002-06-?? 71kg Andrey Balanov RUS W 10:7 Astana, Kazakhstan World Cup dual KZK-RUS 16:8
    2002-10-?? 71kg Abdullah Shekib AFG W AB 1 Pusan, South Korea Asian Games Preliminaries
    2002-10-?? 71kg Nagimeldin Mohd Adam QAT W RSCO 1 Pusan, South Korea Asian Games Quarter-Final
    2002-10-?? 71kg In-Joon Song KOR W 18:12 Pusan, South Korea Asian Games Semi-Final
    2002-10-?? 71kg Suriya Prasathinpimai THA W RSCO 3 Pusan, South Korea Asian Games Final
    2003-04-20 75kg Javid Taghiev AZE W 28:10 Istanbul, Turkey Ahmet Comert Final
    2003-05-17 71kg Andre Dirrell USA L 15:14 Tunica, USA dual USA-KZK dual USA-KZK 12:8
    2003-07-07 75kg Matvey Korobov RUS W 19:10 Bangkok, Thailand World Champs Preliminaries 1/16
    2003-07-09 75kg Andy Lee IRL W 29:9 Bangkok, Thailand World Champs Preliminaries 1/8
    2003-07-10 75kg Lucian Bute ROM W KO 4 Bangkok, Thailand World Champs Quarter-final
    2003-07-11 75kg Yordanis Despaigne CUB W 29:26 Bangkok, Thailand World Champs Semi-final
    2003-07-12 75kg Oleg Mashkin UKR W RSCI 2 Bangkok, Thailand World Champs Final
    2004-01-15 75kg Deok-Jin Cho KOR W 34:6 Puerto Princesa, Philippines Asian Champs Quarter-Final
    2004-01-16 75kg Kymbatbek Ryskulov KIR W ??? Puerto Princesa, Philippines Asian Champs Semi-Final
    2004-01-17 75kg Christopher Camat PHI W RSC 2 Puerto Princesa, Philippines Asian Champs Final
    2004-05-26 75kg Jamie Pittman AUS W 28:11 Athens, Greece Olympic Test Event Preliminaries
    2004-05-28 75kg Khotso Godfrey Motau RSA W 24:13 Athens, Greece Olympic Test Event Quarter-final
    2004-05-29 75kg Yordanis Despaigne CUB L 37:34 Athens, Greece Olympic Test Event Semi-final
    2004-07-17 75kg Marian Simion ROM W AB 4 Bucharest, Romania Golden Belt Final
    2004-08-21 75kg Ahmad Ali Khan PAK W 31:10 Athens, Greece Olympic Games Preliminaries
    2004-08-25 75kg Ramadan Yasser Abdelghaffar EGY W 31:20 Athens, Greece Olympic Games Quarter-final
    2004-08-27 75kg Andre Dirrell USA W 23:18 Athens, Greece Olympic Games Semi-final
    2004-08-28 75kg Gaydarbek Gaydarbekov RUS L 28:18 Athens, Greece Olympic Games Final
    2005-03-26 75kg Nikolay Galochkin RUS L 20:9 Baku, Azerbaijan Chowdry Cup Semi-Final
    2005-04-14 75kg Eduard Gutknecht GER L 17:13 Halle, Germany Chemie Pokal Quarter-Final
    2005-07-12 75kg Anatoliy Kavtaradze GRG W RSCI 4 Moscow, Russia World Cup Dual Georgia-Kazakhstan 2:9
    2005-07-14 75kg Nabil Kassel ALG W RSCO 3 Moscow, Russia World Cup Dual Kazakhstan-Africa 11:0
    2005-07-16 75kg Yordanis Despaigne CUB W 40:37 Moscow, Russia World Cup Dual Cuba-Kazakhstan 6:5
    2005-09-25 75kg Denis Tsaryuk RUS W RSC 2 Kaliningrad, Russia Amber Gloves Final
    2005-11-15 75kg Nikola Sjekloca SCG W 15:12 Mianyang, China World Champs Preliminaries
    2005-11-16 75kg Mohamed Hikal EGY L 27:21 Mianyang, China World Champs Preliminaries
     
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  3. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    I think there was something like 8 or 9 losses on the thread I remember ... they included 1 or 2 debateable one ones (such as a loss to Despaigne(?) in the Olympic test event... 2 months b4 Olympics and not one where you'ld go flat out) and also the loss to Dirrell in the US vs Kazakhstan comp (in the US) by 1pt I think.

    It seems pretty certain that he has a few more losses than the 5 advertised but there may be some explaination/ excuse/ rationale for it (perhaps only including AIBA recognised or sanctioned events?).
     
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  4. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Ah... that's the one ... strefa.pl couldn't remember the name. Cheers Serge!:good
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No worries. I'm sure that is the one he's talking about. :good
     
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  6. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks very much.
     
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  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was mate thanks again by the way I really appreciate it. Was looking all over Google for it and it has just helped me settle a facebook argument with some fools lol.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No worries. Maybe those three additional loses, assuming that partial record is correct, are fights where he felt he was robbed and he just has five legitimate loses? I think Beterbiev said he had a few less loses than he does once in an interview and he made it clear he only counts genuine loses. Beterbiev was robbed in major tournaments like the Olympics and world championships and he also lost close decisions in them too a few times.
     
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  9. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Wikipedia has been many times caught in lies and they don't care. It's a way for a group to control the information we consume.

    It is not always factual.
     
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  10. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Waiting for someone to pipe up and point out all 300 odd of those people were TOMATO CANS
     
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  11. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The 345-5 record is *******s in my opinion. I don't believe it.
     
    iceferg, Aug 28, 2015
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  12. prizewriter

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    The amount of guys on wiki who have perfectly rounded numbers of amateurs fights is silly. Fighters always seem to have a record of 95-5 or 140-10. Obviously those figures are rounded out. Truth is unless you have had a very low number of amateur fights or have someone keeping track for you since day one, it's difficult to give a precise figure on amateur fights.
     
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  13. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Strefa are as close to a "boxrec for amateur boxing" as we have.
     
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