Golovkins temperament is a big dissapointment.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Contro, Jan 28, 2018.


  1. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    the comparison with Tyson is interesting.

    Can you imagine a prime Mike tyson refuse to let his hands go

    no question about Tyson's greatness, but let's look at prime Tyson--who was a wrecking machine but he didn't KO everyone he faced, even less-than-elite opponents

    1986, fought James "Quick" Tillis who had six losses on his record at the time; the fight went the distance, UD for Tyson​

    same year, 1986, Tyson vs Mitch "Blood" Green, this fight also went the distance (UD for Tyson)​
     
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  2. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who says he needs to KO them. But he definitely needs to try if the fight is close on the cards!!!! Tyson tried his best and never held a punch back because he was scared of his opponent hitting him back like golovkin was with jacobs and canelo. GGG could have stopped jacobs and canelo if he had gone all out, he decided to roll the dice with the judges instead.

    Win or lose, Tyson, who was a mentally umstable individual especially after prison, gave everything in his losses to Holyfield Lewis and douglas. He was willing to risk getting knocked out for a chance to turn fights around( fights in which he was gassed out and taking a beating!!!) Jacobs and canelo were NOT punishing and battering golovkin. Jacobs and canelo are no ATG talents. Both have major flaws and GGG could have stopped both of them if he had been willing to take the risk. But he refused to let his hands go. And as a result the jacobs and canelo fights became really close and he almost lost his title.
     
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  3. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name one fight where Floyd ran as much as Lara did vs Canelo. Floyd was a bit runny vs Pacman but did enough work in enough rounds to win the fight. Floyd didnt run vs Canelo, Maidana, Guererro, Cotto, Dela Hoya, Castillo, Corrales, Judah, Hatton, all his biggest fights. Lara on the other hand ran after feeling those body shots. Doesnt mean the Lara fight wasnt close and COULD have been scored 6-6- or 7-5 in favor of Lara. But I scored it in favor of Canelo as did most
     
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  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Granted I was a little disappointed in him myself but scared is not something I’ve heard said about him.
    Never have I seen anyone held to a standard like Golovkin,even Usyk who’s doing great things at Cruiserweight isn’t expected to KO everyone every time?
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Personally I’ve never gotten the thing about Floyd being a runner,most of the time he was in the pocket and still couldn’t be touched.
     
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  6. kirk

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    I agree with the Jacobs assessment. That fight really says a lot to me, either G was injured and didnt speak about it, he was dealing with some sort of tragedy that he wasnt coping well with, or hes got somewhat of a bully mentality, imo. Bully mentality in that, hes all too eager to appear as a killer against lesser foes, but when faced with someone who can hurt him, he will 'back down' (I am going a bit overboard with that assessment but I mean in a very general sense. Obviously he was still pressing forward so he didnt back down exactly but I hope people understand what I mean there)

    I dont want to put too much into one performance.... at the time of the Jacobs fight I was really disappointed and I felt the Canelo fight would show a lot as to what was up with G... if it was a character trait or something else. And to me, that is where I disagree with you, I think he put on a decent performance and did a decent job trying to chase Canelo down even in the midst of taking some serious bombs. Could he have done more? Sure..... but it was nothing like the Jacobs performance. Now, maybe thats because Canelo doesnt hit as hard as Jacobs, that could be.... but he was throwing some serious leather in there and G was still attacking.

    I would really really like to see a Jacobs rematch.... to see if their first fight was a fluke or what. To this day that performance makes no sense to me if G isnt injured, distracted (death, marriage problems, ect), or somewhat of a 'bully'. To me I dont see the explanation if its not one of those. Unless it was just a complete fail of a strategy, trying to fight conservatively and not press on the gas too much for some reason. I dont know. I think a Jacobs rematch would go a long ways to clearing up some questions I have about their first fight.
     
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  7. kirk

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    Always cracks me up when people try to compare Lara with Mayweather. Apples and Oranges. And I dont just mean the level of operation, I mean styles and mentality.
     
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  8. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only in the most deluded of minds.
     
  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So would I cause I’m sure all of us thought after the knockdown for GGG to go for the finish but strangely it just didn’t happen albeit Jacobs did up his game also.
    One would expect it be tougher against the best but I know exactly what you mean,I still think if he treated em like Brook who clearly he had no respect for then you’d think he could stop em as psyically even now he puts on heat none can match but if it’s a mental thing from telling us he’s never been hurt then it’s something he’s gonna have to sort out or else he will lose if left to the judges.
    You know against Canelo I’m just not sure if Golovkin was thinking in there and Abel Sanchez did nothing to make him think as they were so focused on work rate and those last thirty secs of each round it looked to me like Golovkin was just head hunting a moving target instead of falling back on his drilled routines like those mad touch jabs which set up the body.
    I’ll be so disappointed if Golovkin doesn’t address those things and yet with the best Canelo I’ve ever seen it says something about Golovkin that he can still earn a draw(win in many’s books)whilst looking less than stellar.
     
  10. lepinthehood

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    tyson was faster more explosive, and probably hit harder, he also had a lesser chin, less patience, and his style meant he couldnt have any longevity, his stamina was blown out. ggg is a better fighter past prime than tyson was. peak tyson was a machine though.
     
  11. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If golovkin has any of that non stop show no respect style left we might just see it in the rematch because golovkins got to be angry and have that extra motivation to leave everything he has left to really hurt Canelo because that team took his 0 he can never have a perfect record now so hopefully we see that golovkin
     
  12. junkhead

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    Golovkin has always been a patient fighter. He never rushes his work. The issue with Canelo and Jacobs was that he was playing the patient game for far too long and often because they weren't going to open themselves up to be timed. Golovkin as a come forward pressure fighter throwing punches in bunches has never really been his schtick. He nearly lost the Jacobs fight because he didn't do it, the Canelo fight was where he adapted into the mould after realising he wasn't going to time Canelo. So I guess if you expected him to be a ruthless wrecking ball it would let you down.

    But I've always viewed GGG as a patient methodical fighter.
     
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  13. FrankinDallas

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    After reading these posts I've finally realized that GGG is really just a big wuss..
     
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  14. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL at anyone coming to a conclusion about a fighter based on what they read here :p
     
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  15. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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