Golvokin is a Middleweight. suck on that.

"if"

There were titles on the line for two fights. Middleweight titles. Making them middleweight bouts

 

Did I disagree with that? Read what I said dummy, "Canelo has had 2 fights officially at "MW".

 

Canelo is still a junior middleweight and is most comfortable at that weight, why wouldn't he fight big named fighters for big money if the opportunity arises at his weight class?

Remember they fought at junior middleweight 154+1

 

It's simple. The argument you're trying to make doesn't refute my original point. You basically repeated it for emphasis. Why shouldn't I disagree with it? You're going to repeat something to deflect from the point because that's what everyone on this forums seems to do. Everyone on both sides at that. It's baffling how people come on here everyday and reply to the same 4 or 5 people who agree with their viewpoints everyday then pat themselves on the back and like either others posts. The confirmation bias is astounding as well. Making points that people want Canelo to move up but not GGG and try and find a racial bias in it by pointing out Ward and Mayweather completely ignoring that Canelo isn't even black. He's in fact more white than GGG is. On top of that ignoring that these same people they call out for being racist are calling out for Loma to move up for Garcia and Usyk to move up and take on literally the entire HW division.

 

What are you even going on about? All I did was state facts. You're the one getting emotional over this.

 

You literally responded in agreement to Pimp Cs racebait post. How are you acting like my post went off on some tangent? If you don't want to be associated with it then don't comment on it.

 

Here's what happened, you responded to a post saying 155 is not considered JMW. I corrected you and explained to you that in non-title matches it is, since Canelo has fought at 155 in non-title matches too. If I didn't give you this information you would have said that Canelo has fought at MW officially since Mayweather. Instead of just accepting you were wrong, you decided to throw a hissy fit and continue to argue.

 

Exactly

 

If the fight is contracted for JMW then 155 is over the limit. Now if the two sides accept a fighter being over the limit by one pound the fight can proceed in a non title fight. Now if it's a title fight and the champ is over weight he forfeits the title and the contender can win it if he wins the fight. If he doesn't win, the title goes vacant. If the contender is over the weight limit in a title fight and the champion agrees to fight, he can put the title up if he wants to. However, 155 to 160 is middle weight territory. That's why Canelo wouldn't go down for Khan because he wanted the fight to be a defense of his middle weight title and it looks good on paper.

 

No **** captain obvious.

 

This is going back to those "if"'s you threw out earlier. You try and change one small detail and completely ignore everything else. Let's see here.

"you responded to a post saying 155 is not considered JMW." Wrong, I responded saying 155 was MW. It is. Spin it how you like though. Going on to assume my argument based on a misunderstood comment isn't very helpful either.

Going back to my original point my post pointed out 3 distinct reasons why the Canelo - GGG fight made sense which weren't applicable to the Ward - GGG fight. That would be Canelo having had his last 5 fights within the MW limit, Canelo holding two Middleweight tiles in the WBC and lineal, and Golovkin enforcing his mandatory status.

Now with that recap we can see what actually happened, You took one single point I made, twisted what I said, and then acted like it would have mattered anyway. You effectively changed my argument from 5 MW bouts, 2 MW titles, and a Mandatory status enforcement to 2 MW bouts, 2 MW titles, and a mandatory status enforcement. I GUESS you can call that a victory on your part. But yeah, Canelo moving up for GGG and GGG moving up for Ward are totally the same thing.

 

Think about it...only Mayweather haters wanted him to go up to fight GGG. Rigo's detractors want to see him go up hoping he'll lose. Ward and Crawfords haters want to see them go up hoping they'll lose, although a lot of their fans also want them to go up simply for bigger fights. GGG's haters, aka "The Demographic", want Golovkin to go up hoping to see him lose also.

So where the **** is the hypocracy?? Fight fans want to see fighters they dislike fight good guys much bigger than themselves so they can see the fighter they hate get his ass kicked. Pretty standard.
I really hope all this race card bull**** isn't keeping some of you guys from bettering yourselves.

 

I had forgotten that little rule. Interesting point. That must be why it was always 155 and not 156 or more. 155 is like a weird grey area.

 

You responded that 155 can't be considered as MW. Yes if the title is on the line, then no it's not considered JMW. Hence your response was "no", instead of explaining that in Canelo's non-title matches they were considered JMW, and that Canelo has only had 2 official fights at MW.

You say Canelo has had 5 fights within the MW limit, you can say that he's had his whole career within the MW limit, since you're allowed to weigh below basically anyhting below 160(I'm sure that if you're too low the fight won't be sanctioned though). Yes Canelo, had 2 fights officially at MW, but he's also never fought at 160, or against another 160 pounder. he simply won the belt because Cotto was a huge draw, and a big money fight.

I never said Canelo/Ward situation was the same. You're just the type of person that doesn't like to be corrected. It's pretty obvious, which is why you're throwing this little hissy fit right now.

You say that I'm only bringing up one thing? I'm bringing up your first post, and all of your responses to me, everythign else is irrelevant LOL, stop acting like I'm trying to twist words.

 

So let me get this straight. A guy asks "Isn't 155 still considered lmw? Ita not middleweight until 160.." and I repsond "no". You somehow get out that that I said 155 can't be considered JMW? Completely ignoring half of the comment where "no" was indeed the right response the other half isn't even wrong. When he said "considered" it's asking for what would be the default status. by default 155 is MW. Canelo making the contracted weight 155 in a JMW bout is not considered standard or default in any way. I can't believe you made your entire argument based on a single worded response that answered two questions in one.