Good evening. Have any questions regarding MMA?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by James23, Jun 30, 2009.


  1. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i got one question though. Whay are MOST NOT ALL MMA fighters fat as ****? Their condition sucks and some even have love handles which i find a joke.

    That Sylvia/Mercer fight looked like a janitor and a trucker getting ready to rumble. im sorry but i find it pathetic. And it wasnt just them many other fighters as well i have seen and it is embarassing.
     
  2. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh yes. Royce Gracie. Well, in most of his fights he was significantly outsized and in order to maneuver himself into advantageous positions it did take time as he had to physically tire his opponent. But it worked. :p

    (And it's a "gi", not a "gee" :) ) (In Brazilian Jiu Jitsu a gi is used to somewhat simulate street clothes that can be used in fighting. So grabbing someone lapel or pants enables you a type of control you'd find in a real life scenario)
     
  3. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a matter of genetics, for the most part.

    Tim Sylvia is actually in remarkable shape. He regularly bikes marathons as a warm up to his skill training. While it may not show physically, he's in tremendous shape cardiovascularly speaking.

    And, while MMA does have it's share of bigger guys (with the love handles and more, Roy Nelson?), you'll get that from the diversity of people with different skill sets. MMA fighters train themselves extremely hard. Unfortunately, they can't train as much cardio and strength as they'd probably like as it's not the greatest determinant in a fight. They have to spend hours skill training in boxing, wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, and Muay Thai.

    Appearances can certainly be deceiving. That and we have a mixed level of athleticism in fighters.

    See Georges St. Pierre if you'd like to see the definition of "cut". But it's almost always just genetics.
     
  4. Medicine

    Medicine Boxing Addict banned

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    One problem I don't like is the hitting while someone is on the ground, it is a very cheap thing to do, If you drop a man with a punch, there is no reason to stand over him and drill him in the jaw numerous times while he's already out.
     
  5. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry you feel this way.

    Best of luck to you, sir.
     
  6. Piffer

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  7. Haymakers

    Haymakers New Member Full Member

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    There are many different style Boxers:

    1) you have Boxers: (fighters who are very fluid with their punches, great technique, fast hands, fast footwork, tend to have a real nice jab, they stick and move and move around the ring with ease, although they are not powerful punchers)

    2) You have the Punchers: (fighters have very powerful hands, knock out artists, the usually solely rely on their power, plant their feet and look for the KO at all times)

    3) you have the Boxer-Puncher: (athletes who are gifted enough to be boxers and also have very good power, they have the fast hands, fast feet, fluid technique etc)

    4) you have the Counter-Puncher: (a fighter who will let you be the aggressor and make the first move, he will slip, parry and counter with own shots to score points, these guys are usually very skilled fighters who can read your punches well)

    and more, like the switch hitter, a Boxer who can switch his stance up and fight both southpaw and orthodox, causing you to constantly have to adjust to the switch up during the fight.

    There are many different skill sets. Yes, Boxing is all about throwing punches, but there are many different styles you have to adapt to
     
  8. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know genetics play a part just how Juan Diaz will never be a cut guy like Pacquiao but im sorry i think many MMA guys are lazy with their cardio and diet. If they had the work ethic of GSP they will get as close as possible to looking like GSP who is in tremendous shape always.
     
  9. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** off! Go promote your shitty sport somewhere else.
     
  10. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are rules in place to prevent unnecessary damage. A fighter can be dropped and provided he can maintain an intelligent defense, the fight is allowed to continue.

    Very few times has a fighter been KO'd and few strikes are allowed, and it's usually because fighters are told to fight until the ref stops it, or the other fighter taps out. And usually they're going off of instinct. Though you'll have the opposite happen. Gabriel Gonzaga was one of them. He knocked the other fighter essentially out, and he was clearly (his opponent) not able to defend himself and he stopped and looked at the referee to stop the fight before dealing unnecessary damage.

    The vast majority of the time, if someone is instantly KO'd on their feet, the ref is there to jump in and prevent any unnecessary strikes.
     
  11. wentz

    wentz Member Full Member

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    I think the animosity toward MMA is justified. The most profitable promotion (zuffa) is run by felons and the fans are imbecilic wwe-converts.

    When MMA gets some respectable people involved in it, boxing fans will respect it.

    armed.vox.com
     
  12. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, this is also true. But my original reasoning still applies.
     
  13. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    LMAO I guess you didn't see the Maidana-Ortiz fight on saturday night. The better boxer that night loss. Maidana with his brawling style.

    Also, Haymakers talks about the differemt styles so I don't need to explain that to you.
     
  14. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Boxing is doing great right now, I guess you didn't read my post earlier...in a survey just a couple of weeks ago Boxing is the 2nd most popular sport in the world...MMA isn't even in the top 10.
     
  15. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A very informative post and one of which I appreciate as it teaches me something I didn't know. I can honestly say I didn't know all of that.

    As I've said in a previous post, I've clarified it a bit, you're testing a skill set (however diverse it may be) under a set of specific rules. Similar to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. There are many types of Jiu Jitsu fighters with different types of philosophies and styles, but all under specific grappling competitions/rules. Just like a boxing match.

    MMA is simply the least restrictive and utilizes techniques and skill sets from all the martial arts.