Good evening. Have any questions regarding MMA?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by James23, Jun 30, 2009.


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  1. makeitrain

    makeitrain Active Member Full Member

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    I love boxing.

    It takes skill to do any type of fighting. Hats of to anytype of fighter. Whatever floats your boat if your a fan of any sport.

    But if you go way back in the day, boxing has been a classy sport. When a fighter goes down. The other fighter goes to there corner and waits. He doesnt rush and kick him in the head or goes and trys and choke him out.{yes boxing has dirty fighters...and we love em. But you didnt see Pac go stop on Ricky when he has down lol}

    Alot of MMA fans are douche bags, to be honest the level of smell of douche in a MMA fight area is HUGGGGGGGGEEEEE. The dueche-tosteron is at a all time high. Not saying they all are BUT YOU GOT TO ADMIT LOTS OF MMA fans are dueches. Anyone with a tap out shirt or sticker is 89% likely a dueche

    I guess the world is changing...Recently I was in a street fight with a random person. I was outboxing la dueche. The whole time he was eating shots to the face and body. He rarely attempted to swing back, Little did I know he was just waiting to rush and put me in some sort of hold. lol he sucseeeded.

    I know im all over the place with this post, but basically I enjoy a good mono to mono fight. Call me outdated or old school. lol
     
    makeitrain, Jun 30, 2009
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  2. Haymakers

    Haymakers New Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Boxing is a gentleman's sport, you never hit a man when he is down or has his back turned, you stand toe to toe and trade hands, both fighters have equal chance that way,

    When i see a man being grounded and pounded in MMA, i find it very ugly, once fighter A) has all of his body weight on fighter B) and starts smashing him on the face, fighter B) has next to no chance to defend himself,

    with Boxing, a man can be hurt but as long as he is standing he can still defend himself and have a chance to throw punches and attack back,

    Hitting a man when he is down is a cardinal sin, it is ugly
     
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  3. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That I understand. As I said in the latter part of that sentence, "the majority of the time". Meaning the more skilled fighter will win a great majority of the time, there is always a small chance that the lesser skilled fighter will win. Seems that happened.
     
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  4. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While I'm sorry that you got into an unfortunate confrontation, as I feel violence in any form should, for the most part, be avoided at all costs.

    I will admit that MMA does have it's fair share of uncouth characters. But, as I said a few pages back, you'll have that across any sport. It may be disproportional to combative athletics, but I have no proof or evidence of that.

    MMA is as close to a real fight as you can get under a reasonable set of rules. In a real fight, once you knock someone down, your attacker isn't always going to walk a short distance away and let you recover. So, fighters in MMA prepare appropriately.
     
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  5. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While I'll agree it's cowardly when it happens in real life scenarios, it's simply what happens in real combat. You can get into any number of scenarios, including just changing hands. So long as a fighter is intelligently defending himself, the fight is allowed to continue. If he is deemed unable to intelligently defend himself, the fight is stopped.
     
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  6. Haymakers

    Haymakers New Member Full Member

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    Exactly man, Boxing is a classy sport, a gentleman's sport. The Marquess of Queensberry rules has been around since 1867,

    If a fighter cops a flush shot on the jaw and goes down, he isn't rushed and punched from behind, he gets his time to recover and is allowed a chance to protect himself, if he can't protect himself, he has to go out on his shield,

    The whole ground and pounding, punching someone in the head from behind thing is very ugly and is not skillful

     
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  7. makeitrain

    makeitrain Active Member Full Member

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    In all your replys you have made valid points in your arguements and your statements. :bbb

    Hats off to you
     
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  8. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again, you're making a distinction between a fighter being knocked out cold on the feet and a fighter simply being knocked down.

    If a fighter is KO'd on their feet in MMA, the ref jumps in to stop the fight. It's done.

    If a fighter is simply knocked down from strikes, he's allowed to continue so long as he can intelligently defend himself.

    Fighting on the ground is allowed because it's actually a part of fighting. Fights go to the ground the vast majority of the time in real life scenarios. It's not clean like it is in boxing, as much as we'd like it to be. MMA is just a sport which is as close to a real fight as you can get within a reasonable set of rules.
     
    James23, Jun 30, 2009
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  9. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you, sir. It is appreciated. :p

    As I've stated, it goes both ways. I've tried to do the same to some purely hardcore MMA fans. The ignorance of the opposite sport goes both ways, and it's unfortunate as both have their pros. I'm a fan of martial arts in general, of which boxing is one.

    My aim was simply to answer any questions intelligently and as throughly as I could. Most of the time when people are asking questions about MMA, they get fragmented responses or incorrect answers. I'm hoping that some, as clearly not all, on here will just be able to take away something from this post. I've learned quite a bit, in fact, about boxing just in the replies here.

    So, thank you to everyone who has put forth their opinion.
     
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  10. Haymakers

    Haymakers New Member Full Member

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    The Ortiz v Maidana fight is a classic case of Boxer v Puncher, although Ortiz seems to have good power, he is a boxer, he should of boxed the power puncher Maidana and and kept his distance, but he decided to trade punchers with a puncher and tko'd

    My problem with grouding and pounding a man once he has become dazed from a punch is that most of the time the guy on his back gets KO'd/tko'd without a chance to recover from the initial strike, it is unfair on him,
     
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  11. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    welcome to the MMA forum.

    sorry, it was inevitable
     
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  12. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To the first paragraph

    That goes to the intelligence of the fighter. Seems he failed to adjust his strategy appropriately to give him the ideal chance of winning. The best fighters are usually the most intelligent.

    To the second paragraph

    As I've said, MMA is simply as close as you can get to a real fight under a reasonable set of rules.

    If a fighter is KO'd on his feet, it's stopped by the referee as the fighter is clearly unable to intelligently defend himself.

    If a fighter is dazed and dropped the the ground, like in a real fight, the opponent/attacker is going to go to the ground to attempt to finish the fight. Once a fighter can't intelligently defend himself, it's over. Very rarely is any excessive damage done. Strikes happen to a grounded fighter because, quite simply, it happens in real fights and is an aspect of fighting.
     
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  13. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I expected it.

    I did get some legitimate questions and hopefully I answered them to their satisfaction.

    :D
     
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  14. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although, one could argue that having an opportunity to recover from a KD in boxing could also lead to more serious long term damage. In MMA, if you get buzzed and knocked down, chances are your opponent will finish you off right there and then and spare you from a further beating. In boxing you can keep on getting knocked down, and as long as you beat the count you can still fight and get your brain hammered in the process.

    Plus the fact that it would take more punches with an 8 or 10 oz glove to get a KO or KD means that a boxer has to recieve more punches while the 4 oz MMA gloves means it would take less punches.
     
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  15. Haymakers

    Haymakers New Member Full Member

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    The only times i have seen fights go to the ground is when two women are scrapping or two average joes are going at it,

    When i have been in fights myself or have witnessed a punch on** between guys that know how to fight properly, the guys trade punches and the better fighter wins, it never goes to the ground,

    ** I'm Australian and guys in the know call fighting punching on, because we punch on, no kicking, wrestling etc, straight up punching

    But i respect your view on your spor,t man, thanks for the discussion and informative answers!



    There are Boxers, past and present who would cave heads in with those tiny 4 oz mma gloves, man,

    some murderous punchers would literally put holes in heads..
     
    Haymakers, Jun 30, 2009
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