Good or Great punchers who's record doesn't reflect that

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  1. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    Fighters who we recognize as good maybe even great punchers but their records don't reflect that maybe due to different situations. Jersey Joe Walcott I think is an example of this he was a good puncher but his percentage doesn't do him justice. Well one his style was more defensive oriented, he wasn't managed as good during the early part of his career, being that he was a family man who would try to find ways to put food on the table for his children and go into some fights hungry. This is just one fighter that came to mind what others do you feel would fit this category?
     
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  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ike Williams was said to be a great hard puncher but only has 60 KOs out of 125 wins.
     
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  3. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ron Lyle fits the bill.

    He was a hitter with both hands. The problem was he was always fighting the guys difficult to ko. Most often, the hitters face guys easy to stop and never the long list of opponents known for their staying power and ability to make it to the end. Those are the guys Lyle fought and that record is a whole lot better fighting different opponents than the guys he ended up fighting.
     
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  4. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ike had thev "cuffs on " in many of his fights. To get fights he had to do "business" and fought at the welterweight level way past his peak, but H2H
    and unleashed he was just under a shade in punching ability than the welterweight Ray Robinson...In his very prime, [which I saw}, I have him over any LW H2H ,15 rounds...His ko ratio is misleading, and look at his rivals in his prime, Beau Jack, Bob Montgomery, Sammy Angott, Willie Joyce, etc...
     
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  5. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    Good point he fought Quarry, Ali, Foreman and Young if I'm not mistaken among some others. Those guys were known for their chins so it isn't a surprise that he had difficulty stopping these types of fighters.

    I guess I would also add Ezzard Charles to that list as he seemed to have took his power up very well between middleweight lightheavyweight(his peak weight) and all the up to heavyweight. I've heard earlier in his career he had a more aggressive style but when he killed one of his opponents he took up a more defensive style which he ended up having less kos
     
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  6. KOTF

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    Dick Tiger
     
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  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Earnie Shavers. Ray Mercers power isn't reflected that well with a KO ratio just over 50. Although he did go up against quite a few iron chinned fighters
     
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  8. janitor

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    Bob Satterfield for all his vaunted power did not have a verry high KO percentage.
     
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  9. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar Rankins (ask Billy Conn)

    Red Bruce

    These guys floored or badly staggered just about every fighter they faced.
     
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  10. janitor

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    Turkey Tomphson, Lee Q Murray, Lem Franklin.

    Like Satterfield, their KO% are probably low because of the sick level of opposition he fought.
     
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  11. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Curtis 'man of hatchets' Sheppard. Archie Moore would back me up.
     
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  12. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Iran Barkley in more recent times. Punching power was one of his best assets, but he had less than a 50% KO percentage. Had a lot to do with quality of opposition (much like the old timers) and less than polished finishing skills.

    There are old timers such as Tony Canzoneri and Jimmy McLarnin, whose KO records do not look impressive at all on paper, but who still possessed respectable punching power capable of finishing off quality opposition in a single shot.
     
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  13. Bobo

    Bobo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  14. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Juan Laporte had legit one punch power but he was never a good finisher and could often be uninspired in his performances.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I've never thought of Canzoneri as a puncher, but Mclarnin had a great right hand.
    Benny Leonard 31.96%
    George Chaney 43.58%
    Charley White 33.72%
    Lew Jenkins 42.86%
    Jack Delaney 48.91%
    Leo Lomski 27.46%
    Joe Choynski 42.86%
    Fit the bill, imo
     
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