**Good stoppage by Smoger...**

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  1. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Jermain Taylor was cooked and done, when he went down from the accumulation of punches from Pavlik, his will to fight was beaten out of him...his eyes clearly said..."I am not getting up"...Smoger sence it and acted upon it...remember folks ..Smoger is know for giving the boxers on major fights a little extra lead way....but on this one...no need for that.....Jermain was hit with a viscious right hand that connected perfectly on the chin and later on another viscious right upper cut that put Jermain in the "...I don't want to fight anymore mode"....Good stopage..

    I will say this , at first glance and my comments to Zivic after the fights was that Smoger could ahve let JT come back one time and Zivic comments change my mind...and I ahve to agree with him since I saw the quiting on his eyes also....but taught he deserved the benefit...but nope ..he was done...clearly done...in fact he was so done he was so embarrassed that he left to the lockers without addressing Merchant...
     
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  2. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    I don;t understand how anyone can;t doubt the stoppage...Jermain in amateurish fashion move to te corner when badly hirt rather than taken the knee as any experince fighter would ahve, rather than backing himslef in the corner becoming target practice for Kelly, or even grab Kelly like Pavlik did 5 rounds earlier...
     
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  3. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i dont doubt the stoppage. I think it was good, I was there live and Jermain looked pretty much done. It will be better to have them rematch then have some Gman **** happen to jermain. Smoger is a great ref.
     
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  4. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    I will say that just looking at Jermain you can tell he was not getting up....in a rematch I beleive the outcome will be same....Jermain will ahve that right hand tatooed to his memory bank forever...
     
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  5. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    Finally a sensible post on this matter
     
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  6. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    I hate to say it, but I have to agree with you on that. There's a clear psychological disadvantage when rematching a fighter who stopped you, especially as brutally as KP did him last night, and it seems like Jermain's psyche is pretty fragile to begin with.
     
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  7. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Well I ahve heard from isniders that Jermain's heart and soul is not with boxing anymore, now that he ahd all the money, he accomplished waht he set to do, the MW champion, and to paraphrase Zivic..is not like he is pulling a Buster Douglass...but
     
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  8. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Someone deleted my pic which has the Smoger quote:

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    It was over.
     
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  9. Thor

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    I'm a Taylor fan and always will be, but I agree. Taylor shows flashes of doing very good things, it just seems like he lacks consistency. He showed he could circle and stay off the ropes, he showed he could throw the left jab. You got to tie up or take a knee, and when Taylor had Pavlik hurt, be a smart finisher instead of wasting energy with wide punches that aren't really landing. I wish Taylor would keep those hands up too. Props to both guys, I'd like to see Pavlik fight Winky next and then the rematch.
     
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  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Yeah, good stoppage by Smoger
     
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  11. VIP

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    Perfect stoppage IMO.
     
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  12. Club Fighter

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    You always give the champion the benefit of the doubt and at least the opportunity to see if he can rise to his feet and continue on. JT had not been in any trouble throughout the entire fight prior to the conclusion of the bout. This gave Smoger no reason to neglect to count to 10 and instead abruptly call a halt to the bout. As many have said that Taylor was not going to get up, let Smoger count to 10 and allow Kelly to get the official KO instead of the TKO. It was a poor job of refereeing on behalf of Smoger and an even poorer job of gauging one's own condition on behalf of Taylor. Sometimes you've gotta know when to take a knee.
     
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  13. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    He has no fight on him......none...the waisted eneregy on the first 4 rounds looping punches threwing heymakers and missing, not getting the proper distance on his opponent cost his dearly...
     
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  14. zivic1941

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    That's an excellent post, Thor.
     
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  15. zivic1941

    zivic1941 Member Full Member

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    It was. It was one or two punches away from becoming Cooney - Norton, and thankfully, not to the level of Mercer - Morrison or Griffith - Paret. Taylor was 80% completely gone, and 20% aware. He had no shot....his body was in the process of completely shutting down.
     
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