Good thing for Joe that he didn't listen to Enzo

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Because he was comfortable in Wales making easy money against stiffs and making WBO defences. He now wants a last hurrah and a chance to make some major cheese. Thus beating up ATG`s who are past there physical prime of course is the best way for him to go.
     
  2. KCD

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    Why should he have to fight in the states?

    Calzaghe fought an American in America, on his opponents promotion, with an American referee with 3 American judges.

    Now tell me why would anyone want to have a fight where the chips are stacked against them like that?

    Joes record is very underated there are some good fighters on his resume, aswell as some ****
     
  3. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look, we all know you are 15 and your first fight was Mayweather De La Hoya

    Just go kill yourself.
     
  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Because you go where the best talent is. If the talent is in China you go there. If its in ****ing India you go there. It just happens to be in the US of A and always has been. Joes arse should have been fighting there years ago and cleaning up not making stupid defences of the WBO against Tocker Pudwills and co. It went on for FAR too long. A victory over a 43 year Hopkins doesnt prove a dam thing. The fight was tardy sloppy and simply crap to watch. It certainly wasnt a 116-11 fight to Joe nor a great performance worthy of any accolade.
     
  5. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No shill it is not his first great victory. Just a victory over the most over-rated fighter of the last decade.

    The Lacy and Kessler wins meant more than this. Most people know that Bhops is a boring crock of **** in the ring and he proved this with the constant negative strategy he adopted.
     
  6. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well said. :good He fought scrubby Eurobums. He'd have atleast 2 or 3 losses if he fought Nard, Jones, Winky, Johnson, De La Hoya, Trinidad, ect ect in their primes. He could barely beat Nard at 43, Nard destroyes him 10 years ago.
     
  7. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Hopkins didn't do enough, bro. If there was a considerable amount of clean punches, he would have taken this thing away. Unfortunately it didn't happen that way.
     
  8. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That overrated fighter knocked your boy on his ass and was Joe's hardest fight of his life. AT 43 years old. Imagine 10 years ago, its a slaughter. :deal
     
  9. Beebs

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    That 43 year old was still the rightful LHW champion, that means something.

    Calzaghe was far and away the best 168er in the world, he had 0 to prove to anybody. Who were all these great supermiddleweights he was avoiding by not fighting in the US? He is the bigger draw, the better fighter, and the champion, he sets the terms, period.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Totally agree. Hopkins thought he could eak his way to a close UD with extremely economical work but he didnt do enough in the championship rounds from 8th onwards and the fight was sooo sloppy that the judges simply gave it to Joe for forcing the action. It was a terrible performance by both fighters but its notable that Hopkins work was not as clean at all in the later rounds as when he fought Taylor and Tarver.
     
  11. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes sure, and I suppose JC looked out of it, he got straight back up and it was not exactly a KD of any magnitude. Watch Tyson Berbick to learn what a proper KD is.

    If this is the only thing you can boast about then it shows that Bhops did fck all else all night. 1 KD does not win fights just as clinching for most the fight doe nothing.

    Good job JC won, hope this is the last we see of Bhops as even the crowd were fed up with his negative b/s and trying to get points deducted for the imaginary low blow.

    It was also not JC's hardest fight. The likes of Eubank, Reid and Starie gave him tougher fights.
     
  12. Beebs

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    Almost without exception all of the best 168 fighters in the world were from somewhere other than the US.

    From Eubank to Kessler.
     
  13. KCD

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    Well sorry to say the Americans hardly ever go abroad, and no longer does the US have a monopoly on having the best fighters. America is no longer the proving ground as the yanks say.

    Granted Joe should have gone there earlier if only to raise his profile, and i agree with you that Calzaghes work was sloppy and the fight was **** but that was mainly down to huggy bear Hopkins.
     
  14. Beebs

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    Because he was the supermiddleweight champion. Being the undisputed, undefeated, completely unarguably the best fighter in the world if not ever at 168 is better than fighting welterweights your whole career.
     
  15. KCD

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    Look at both Hopkins and Calzaghes resumes....they are quite similar.

    The only difference is Hopkins has lost to the two best fighters he has fought(Jones and Calzaghe), whilst Calzaghe is still undefeated.

    Hopkins best wins are against a blown up welter and a fighter who started his career at Super Feather.

    Calzaghes best wins are against Kessler and Huggy bear Hopkins, oh and Christopher Eubank esq