Good thing for Joe that he didn't listen to Enzo

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  1. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Beebs said it all in his last post.

    The only really impressive win is his win over Glen Johnson.

    Picture this Calzaghe vs DLH, Wright, Trinidad and Tarver and tell me the outcomes because Calzaghe would have beaten them all easily. Hell Kessler would beat all of the opponents you have named(except Jones in his prime)

    By the way Hopkins couldnt carry Monzons jockstrap:D
     
  2. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    A younger Hopkins wasn't much different except he was more aggressive and had the less safety first approach.
     
  3. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    I think we can safely say that Hopkins has fought a higher level of competition.

    However, I come from a different school of thought. Resumes are fine when you're talking about a boxers profile and potential legacy, but when it comes down to the fight I'm really not interested in who they fought previously. You have two men in a ring, and who/what they faced in the past doesn't really matter.

    I also don't buy into this A beats B, B beats C, so A would definitely beat C theory. Every fight is a new fight, and your history isn't going to count for much during the 12 rounds.
     
  4. stake501

    stake501 Active Member Full Member

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    i had the fight pretty much level, I wouldnt shout robbery if it went either way

    the thing is ppl calingbhop old out of prime etc, so is calzaghe... Calzaghe is also old and well out of prime, so why could atg hopkins not expose old out of prime euro bum?

    edison miranda and kelly pavlik have become legends already i see. I dont know why the fight hasnt happened but Kessler ****s both up bad.
     
  5. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wales is not a town you dimwit. Its not hard to get a gash or two when you have someone trying to wreste and use his head. Not boxing is it ? Starrie, Reid and Eubanks gave JC harder fights than what Bhops did.

    Yes Lacy was a real bum wasn't he. Well he is now after JC schooled him.

    It looks like you have toruble accepting that Bhops is a boring old fart. Please get some counselling as you need to face reality. He lost to a white boy and even better the chap that beat him twice (Taylor) lost to another white boy twice.:lol:

    I hope he does not retire but faces RJJ as I want to see him getting beat again.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What they are listed on does not mean a single ****ing thing, there is more to boxing than boxrec. Their natural weight class was obviously not middleweight. If you had seem then fight you would know, but you were 7 at the time so it is understandable that boxrec is your guide, but even then the weights for each fight are listed.

    DLH could have made 140 on the day he fought Hopkins. The only one that might not have been able to make their proper weight class when they fought hopkins was Tito because he was quite "plump" already.
     
  7. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    I was referring to the fact that both fighters have fought their fair share of bums whilst cleaning out their respective divisions.
     
  8. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are wrong, apparently JC is only 25 and fought Eubank when he was 14 (according to another thread). :lol:
     
  9. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said Shitown, Wales. Shittown being the city get it dumbass lol? He got that gash from a Hopkins lead right to the face. A punch 10 years ago he would have put your boy in the hospital.

    Lacy was nothing special. Probably be an allstar in Britain. In America he was a never was and now is a neverwas hasbeen.
    Boxing has nothing to do with being exciting. Floyds not exciting and he's the greatest fighter in boxing today. Its about winning and thats what BHop has down against ATG's throughout his career. If you wanna go that route, I can criticize every decision Calslappy has ever won, considering his punches dont hurt because they are slaps mostly, and fast taps. Who looked worse after the fight, the dude with the gash on his face or the 43 year old who looked like he could go 12 more?

    Race doesnt play any part for me. But as I said, he lost to a white boy, he certainly wasnt beaten, one was pink with gash that looked like somebody knifed him, and the other looked like he was just in a brisk workout.

    Who Calslappy? I hope he fights Pavlik, or maybe Dawson. Some more top of the line American fighters. I hope he doesnt quest after more Eurobums after experiencing what an old American could do to him.
     
  10. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You haven't seen any of Lacy, Kessler, or Calzaghes fights, how can you judge them?
     
  11. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Which means "I got seriously owned here, I cant ever compare Joe's record to Bernard without laughing my ass off, I wish I knew more about boxing, but sadly I realize Hopkins is a legend, and Joe will be remember as Joe "who?" Calslappy after his career is over, and that just makes me so angry I could start my period"

    Is that what you were insinuating?
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I'm saying you haven't seen a single Lacy or Kessler fight outside of Calzaghe, and you know I'm right, you aren't a boxing fan, you haven't seen more than maybe 10 fights in your life.

    They are both legends, thats obvious, but if you criticize Calzaghe for not fighting a lightweight, a fatass welterweight, and a junior middleweight, you're an idiot.

    More to the point, you have only seen 1 DLH fight, no Trinidad fights, and maybe 1 Winky fight.

    If you are honest about it you know you just started watching boxing in the last 2 years.
     
  13. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a country you demented lame *****. Of cause he would have put him in hospital in your imaginary world where Bhops is the greatest boxer of all time.



    Fck off, all the US posters were boasting about him as if he was the next coming of Tyson.


    PBF is damn more exciting than crappy Bhops. Ask Lacy if his punches hurt. Poor Lacy has to this day still not recovered from the beating he took from JC.


    Ah fck off, if all you can boast about is a gash then I bet you must have thought Honeyghan was a god when he Vaca got the huge gash on his head.



    No dimwit I hope Bhops fights RJJ as the guy still has a huge ego and needs another loss to show that he was just simply over-rated for all these years.
     
  14. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I saw Lacy against Calzaghe and the contender kid. I saw Kessler against Mudine and Calzaghe. More then enough to guage the level of these fighters. Lacy being a poor slugger who will never win another belt, and Kessler who is an average all around fighter that will beat a bunch of nobodies throughout his career, losing 3 or 4 along the way.

    Nonsense.Calzaghe might be an ATG. Might be. Hopkins has fought and beat legends. Calzaghe beat 2 nearly retired legends, doesnt mean the same thing as beating legends in your prime as Hopkins did.

    Wow, divert from the point and ask meaningless questions like this. I've seen about 10 full fights between all three.

    Followed the sport religiously the last 8 years. Pretty much the time span of Floyds whole career.

    Now will you try and debate my points or keep diverting? These pms tantrums arent helping your argument young lady.
     
  15. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you Bhop's ***** ?

    Which real MW legends did Bhops beat ?

    The only real MW legend he faced in RJJ and Bhops was made to look ****