Good wins that are often discredited for whatever reason

18 out of 20 experts polled by The Ring picked Oscar to beat Pacquiao.

Now I'd say 99% of us don't rate that win as meaning much. I cannot think of a better example of this, the turnaround has been complete.

 

deal:deal

 

This thread could honestly go on forever. There's so many examples.

Michael Spinks vs Gerry Cooney

Yes, Cooney was inactive, probably in a bit of a mess outside of the ring, but had destroyed his previous opponents in typical Cooney fashion, and dwarfed Michael Spinks, who was perceived as being nothing but a blown up Light Heavyweight. Spinks didn't just win, he destroyed Cooney. A good win, noteworthy.

 

Often wondered about that myself, P.

Think the same thing holds true before Toney fought Holyfield.

 

Louis NEVER looked better than in the Baer fight.

 

Carlos Monzon-Jose Napoles. This bout is ofter derided by today's "experts" in 20/20 hindsight as a case of Monzon being too big for Napoles...for brevity's sake, I'll only say that back then..at the time of the fight, that sure as hell wasn't the opinion of the boxing world...to them, Napoles was the guy to whip Monzon.

 

Saddler managing to tommy-top Pep over the course of their series. Regardless of how much better Pep might have done at his best, how dirty Saddler was and so on and so forth, I still think Saddler deserves no small amount of praise.

It often seems to occur that a fighter ends up being denied credit for defeating a long-standing champion when said champion is past his best but still a good fighter. Especially when most people think that the victor wouldn't have been near as likely to do the same in the old champion's prime. For example, I'm not Hatton's biggest fan, but his win over Tszyu often comes under unfair scrutiny at times, as does McGuigan's win over Pedroza.

Addie's right, there are tonnes......

 

Manny Pacquiao

vs..

Marco Antonio Barrera - shot and passed prime
EriK Morales II - shot and passed prime
Juan Manuel Marquez - robbery
Oscar De La Hoya - weight drained, past prime and shot. Quit himself, wasnt made to
Miguel Cotto - rendered paraplegic by Margarito
Ricky Hatton - rendered paraplegic by Mayweather Jr

All but Hatton needed a poo also

 

Roy Jones Beating Hopkins

People say Hopkins was Green but Roy was also Green and Hopkins was still a very good fighter and thats his only clear defeat

 

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v.underated wins, Buster DESTROYED 100% Peak/Best Tyson And Holyfeild DESTROYED Prime Tyson - noo excuses needed.

Foreman KO2 Frazier is v.underated in teh same way - ppl make excuses sayin' he was past-Prime :rofl:nut when he were 29 yr-old Undefeated 29-0 WORLD CHAMP!!

 

How can you say the Tyson of 1996 was prime Tyson??! :huh

Anyone with eyes could see he was not the same fighter he was in 1987. I doubt even Evander Holyfield himself would try to make that claim, it's so patently untrue.

Douglas beat the better version of the man.