Good wins that are often discredited for whatever reason

The biggest, not to mention, the most ridiculous fallasy going Foreman was not stronger in 91 at all - no way in the world - the young Foreman would've blasted Holyfield down just like he did Norton - like i said Holyfield did his thing well - and looked good doing it but - but I'm sorry but no man gets stronger as they age - ask anyone - and ask Foreman himself - he may have been mentally stronger and more realistic but physically he was no where near what he was at 25 - he was an awesome specimen when he was young - when he was old he was just huge and fat - did you see him in the corner - his waist was awful - sorry but anyone who tries to claim the 42 year old Foreman was stronger is just a joke in my eyes - plus he didn't pace himself any differently if you watch the fights - he simply had to take his time more when he was old because he couldn't let his fists go like he could when young because he was falling over nearly everytime he was winging those huge punches and then blowing like a whale afterwards - when he was young he knew he could wade in and blast people out generally so wasn't exactly too concerned about pacing things - he only got found out for punching himself out when he was young against the few people who didn't fold against his steamrolling power

 

MAB vs Naz was as glorious a boxing lesson/humiliation that anyone could ever wish for...thank you MAB!!!! Barrera banished that vile little twat from the boxing scene as effectively as any exterminator has banished rats and vermin from a building. The overinfalted ego...the mega-long, endless ring entrancs...the mocking of already helpless and outclassed opponents...just one golden, masterful performance from Barrera that turned all that off like a light switch...

 

:good My favorite post so far today. Granted, I have just woken up.

 

How old are you? Foreman was obviously stronger, men nearly always get stronger with age but lose their speed, stamina, most other things

 

I'd have to go with Chavez vs Taylor. Everyone gets so wrapped up in the arguments about the stoppage that they forget the heart Chavez showed to still be desperately going for the win when it looked like all hope was lost.

 

Willard - Johnson.

Jess should get more credit for that victory. The whole "thrown fight" argument is an assault to anyone with even a modicum of intellectual function. Johnson Queens love go ad nauseum how great Arthur was in the late teens and 20's, how he beat top contenders in secret heaters, but in 1915 he was supposedly shot...

 

No disrespect to Pacquiao, but that would have been before they saw the condition De La Hoya came in on.

If he looked dehydrated enough for Roach to feel confident to instruct Pacquiao to swarm him from the outset, then surely this must have been a major disadvantage.

But dehydrated or not, this was still a very good win for Pacquiao but let's not go crazy here.

 

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Raw physical strength I bet he was stronger...you can keep getting stronger till your about 50....its your speed, and espically reflexes that you lose.

 

Any win that Mayweather has gets discredited.... . And I don't even like him.

 

I see where you're coming from, but sometimes you have to use that as a reference just to put a break on things.

There's hardly one unexpected result that doesn't get partly or fully rationalized away afterwards. All of a sudden things that nobody saw at the time becomes accepted fact, and then it's often necessary to step in with some needed perspective. Sure, sometimes a fight can show things that wasn't clearly visible before, but it's not going to be the case on every single occassion.