Goosen: "When Will Margarito Stop Trying To Deceive The Fans?"

Problem is Marg wont make more than he would against Pwill. He made about 1.5 mil against Cotto. I doubt he'll make more than that vs Clottey in a non-ppv fight. Since the Hoya fight is out of the question completly, Pwill is the biggest fight out there for him money wise

 

He could've easily been the no.1 contender for any org. In fact, he was at one time, the no.1 contender to Mayweather. He gave that up to pursue Mayweather. Why is it so hard to believe that Williams just wants to prove himself? The guy wants to fight everyone and wants to unify. His actions have backed up these claims. Despite this, his motives are always questioned.

How was he ever going to fight Oscar when Oscar said he didn't want to fight him and Margo's promoter was negotiating with Oscar for him to fight another one of his clients? That fight was never a realistic option.

Debateable.

He straight up told Margo no, and it's now official that he's fighting Pac.

Will see about Clottey. I doubt all of the belts will be unified in 2009.

 

He told him that...but he sure didn't act on it. If a rematch was to be made, it would have been made at the time since both apparently wanted it. So it's moot. When you say they (SSM and Cotto) TURNED down, did you mean a CALL OUT? Real fights are made when one contacts the others promoter to get on it.

Yeah, but at least he's unifying and facing a top 3-5 WW. I want Margarito - Williams too, and I know they WILL FIGHT again, but am not going to complain about this. Besides, so many here say Clottey beat Margarito, or would have. This is a good fight as well to clear the air @ WW.

 

Shane and Floyd entered into preliminary negotiations in the summer of 2006. Shane balked over money concerns and then took the rest of the year off because of a toothache. Team Mayweather contacted Cotto's manager in 2005 and was told to take a walk

The Clottey fight is fine. I have no problem with it. However, the Hoya/Pac fight is going to be huge. It will draw a lot of interest and put up big numbers. However, Margo has no problem digging in Oscar's **** for making the biggest fight out there.

 

Yep yep, i never thought margarito was ducking williams. He was just holding out hope for the DLH fight. Now it looks like he'll fight Clottey, which is winnable but dangerous, and if he wins then he comes at williams with two belts and the fight will be bigger because it will unify the division.

I know, Berto has the other belt, and he is a good fighter, but there is no way his people are gonna let him anywhere near Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Clottey. Maybe in a year or so that'll change. I think its gonna be pretty interesting how they go with him.

One more thing, why do people hate on the bigger welters like williams and margarito that they should move up and fight bigger guys. If they can make the weight, then there shouldn't be any complaints.

 

I don't recall Mosley and Mayeather ever getting to the point of negotiation for purse parity. Not calling you a liar, just that I generally read up on boxing news every day before work starts. Could have missed that.

But i doubt DLH would promote a fight when he was trying to get Mayweather as well, or was an option, since mayweather called him out any chance.

Mayweather had no business fighting Cotto at that point. That's just cheap. Be like Margarito trying to get a fight w/ Berto now.

Yes, it will draw big #'s. That's all the justification this farce needs. Margarito would have been foolish to not try and fight him, considerering what DLh had said.

 

Here's the thing, you can't expect fighters to always wait on you to be ready. If you're gonna give Mosley a pass because of his loyalty to Oscar, you have to give Mayweather a pass for making a bigger fighter against a younger, undefeated fighter in the form of Hatton. Both had legit excuses. It's the same with Margo and Williams. I don't begrudge Williams fro initially turning down Margo because he wanted to unify. I also don't begrudge Margo because he did pursue other big fights in lieu of Williams.

And how many people are killing Berto right now because they say he needs to fight the top guys in the division?

Hoya says a lot of things. He also told Pac he would fight him. Hoya made it very clear that he wasn't going to fight Margo once he beat Cotto. Margo's own promoter was negotiating a fight between Pac and Hoya.

 

And what is Margarito doing fighting Cintron twice and Clottry again?:hi: Williams is trying to set the record straight..Many claim margarito is the best welter, unjustilfied I might add, which why he is aiming for the fight. coupuled with the fact magarito claimed he was robbed in the first fight. "It was close" is th next wack claim being made. Williams is marching the right path..:good

 

The main problem is Williams offered Margarito the fight in Feb when Cintron pulled out. Margarito declined. And who can Margarito be pursuing other big fights? Oscar told him more the once he wont get the fight. Williams had 4 million on the table. Does Margarito have a bigger fight money wise than that? NOPE He never responded to that 4 million dollar offer. No RESPONSE? :hi:

 

Baloney excuse. He had 4 million offered to him by Williams. His hihest purse to date. He never was in the running for Oscar. There was nothing to wait on. No contract talks,No fght..No money offers, no fight. Williams put money on the table. Margarito has ignored it. You got it twisted.

 

What pass? You clearly misunderstand. There's a very good chance Shane passed on Mayweather at that time since his BOSS, who would be the promoter, was interested as well. Who's Floyd's boss?

Not sure what the hatton reference pertains to.

I don't know how many are killing Berto, but I honestly could care less if posters here think he needs to fight the top WW's ASAP simply because he has a belt.

Most posters here do NOT know anything about brining up a fighter. Not to say I could, but I know you don't jump them up in class to far ahead of their development. I think Forbes vs. Berto is an excellent fight for Berto. Then maybe Gomez then Zab. But definitely TOO SOON for Williams, Cotto, or Margarito.

DLH says a lot of things...**** him. I was glad Margarito called his bluff on DLH fighting Williams. DLH has come off looking terrible for the past month.

I'm aware who Pac's promoter is. Everyone involved stands to make a ton of money in this.

 

Fighting guys ranked at the top of the division, that's what.

Margarito WILL fight Williams again. they really don't have anyone else but each other, unless Cotto makes a dazzling return to the top. Give it a rest troll.

 

Where were all you whiners when Williams ducked Margarito immediately after their first fight

 

Suckin Mayweather since he wasn't retired at that point. :thumbsup

 

Think about it, if Margarito beats Clottey that will be for the IBF. Margarito already has the WBA and now if Margarito and Williams fight it will be for almost all the marbles. Berto will be fed easy opponents until the fans demand a unification.

How many times did we hear that the Pac fight was official? Oscar could turn around and give in to Margarito and you know Margarito will drop the fight with Clottey to fight money....I mean Oscar. That if the Clottey fight is signed, sealed and delivered.