Got to admit south paws have caused floyd the must trouble

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  1. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    I see your point! Personally I think Floyd is going to box the hell out of Manny from round 1! He has the smarts and skills to turn Manny into that one demensional fighter that he once was! Take away that right hand from Manny by shooting his jab over it or simply placing his left over the top of Manny's right! Floyd has the foot work and speed to control the range! Floyd has the height and reach advantage and he fights tall for his height. I give it 8 rounds to 4 Floyd by UD!
     
  2. DMJ_1987

    DMJ_1987 "No Risk, No Reward" Full Member

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    because hes cocky as fcuk and thinks he's invincible
     
  3. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Since when does Floyd not act smart inside that ring? He is not going to play with Manny and he will be on his ass! Floyd is going to go into that ring with the same attitude that he had when he faced Gatti and he will bring his A+ game in that fight. People can hate him but they tend to forget that the dude has heart and he is and will always be a gym rat! Plus you have to look at his smarts! He knows just as much as Freddie Roach and you can't deny that Roger knows his **** as well!
     
  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Because he got stunned by weaker opposition, Pac didnt get ko´d by barrera( that one was bull**** so dont bring it up),morales,marquez,dlh,hatton,clottey,margarito,cotto all strong guys.
    Floyd from what he have seen has a moderate-good chin while pac is slightly better.
     
  5. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He took 2 big shots with 10oz Grant gloves.

    Let him take those same shots with 8oz reyes.

    I dont see him getting out of the round in the above situation.
     
  6. DMJ_1987

    DMJ_1987 "No Risk, No Reward" Full Member

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    yer roger does know his **** inside out, but i personally hate mayweather just because of his persona and cockyness
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    Pretty much, Zab was landing cleanly with the Left down the middle and the right hook more than anyone, but he missed allot even in the first 4 rounds, after the 5th Floyd started keeping. The 4th was 1 of Zabs better rounds where he backs, but as you can see in the below video Zab lands little of what he throws

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H7yyVzatTE&feature=related[/ame]

    After that rally Mayweather landed his own shots to the body and head. later Floyd started dropping his left hand again either because he had adjusted to the angles or his body punching had slowed Judah enough to do that. FMJ is definately an underrated bodypuncher

    With regards to Pacquaio, yes he doesn't do some things as well or the same as Judah. Judah is a little faster, fights out of a side on half guard and is more defensive, harder to hit in the early going. Part of Mayweather's problem early was he found judah hard to time and couldn't land, Pacquaio is easier to time early. Pacquaio won't fold as easily as Judah though and will come forward pressuring. Its a very different fight, the pressure should see Pacquaio landing, but he'll eat many counters and maybe timed.
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Manny got stunned by Marquez in the first round of their second fight! So what! Manny has been dropped by lesser opponents with left hooks and right hands!
     
  9. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    When was the last time he got cocky in the ring? He's very professional once he stops in the ring.

    He lost concentration in his last two bouts, but he doesn't get cocky.
     
  10. horst

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    I can say Pac has a better chin than Floyd because since Pac has been at higher weights and fighting top competition, I've never really seen him get the spaghetti legs from a single shot. I've seen Floyd get them twice, from Corley and Mosley. Floyd was having to clutch Mosley's arm like a dying orphan to get his senses together again, Pacquiao seems to be one of those fighters who never has that moment where his legs and senses are scrambled. I'm not saying Floyd has a weak chin, he doesn't, but Pac's is stronger.
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    You can hate him all you want but you can't deny his skills and the fact that he doesn't know how to lose. What do you think Manny will do when he can't land 5 and 6 punch combos on Floyd? How will he adjust to Floyd! Floyd is not going to be in front of him all flat footed. The worst thing that Manny has done is fight these slow flat footed non defense guys back to back! The last guy he fought that could move and be a pure boxer was Marquez back in 2008 and the punch stats looked like this: Marquez 172/511- 34%connect rate Pacquiao 157/619 25%connect rate! Floyd will dominate Manny!
     
  12. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    between zab & chop chop floyd lost a total of 4 out of 24 rounds
     
  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    This was my intentional belief as well, However I know believe that manny is a very special fighter, what you say is possible of course, it is very difficult to find outwhat will happen, marquez and mosley are not the best indications of whatw il happen though. A funny thing I noticed when mosley stunned floyd in round 2 and almost dropped him, we were unsure how mosley would come out in the 3th round, Floyds corner was completely clueless and did not know what to do. they just said: this is not how we fight!, something like that. didnt gave the guy any advice at all, he is stuck alone when it comes down to it, if manny catches him like mosley did he will follow it up viciously, not wait and gass out. This subject have been debated to dead anyway, people have different opinions, most believe floyd ud, which is logical. I wish Floyd had 10% of the convidence that his fans have in him then we would have already had this fight by now.
    To be honest i dont see it happening anymore, if it happens later in 2 years or something all the potential credit would be gone because either guy will likely be over the hill then.
     
  14. horst

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    Jose Luis Castillo trashed Floyd by Compubox in their first fight, so Floyd does "know how to lose" on the Compubox stats you cite. :good

    And if JLC can do it...
     
  15. AnthonyW

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    Yeah I agree. I was skeptical of Pacquiao's chin up at Welter because I hadn't seen any real, clean, hard shots connecting on him. The majority of the shots Cotto landed weren't really clean, and landed on the ears, or Manny slipped them. Clottey didn't even try to put any power into the straight right he couldn't miss with.
    But Margarito landed some hard shots on Manny's chin over the 12 rounds...especially the uppercut he landed in the later rounds.

    Both boxers recuperating abilities are 2nd to none aswell.