GOTTA ADMIT - WILDER is the REAL DEAL

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kiwi_in_America, May 24, 2019.


Page 1 of 6
  1. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

    5,501
    3,292
    Oct 19, 2006
    I have not been a Wilder fan - and even less so with his comments on "killing" etc. Highly disgusting.

    But I have to admit - and I think we all have to admit - that Wilder is one of the most dangerous fighters on the planet - perhaps number one or two in the World. We need to stop mocking the guy and give him the respect he deserves. That right hand is a great leveler.

    What say you?
     
    Kiwi_in_America, May 24, 2019
    Kiwi_in_America, May 24, 2019
    #1
    GK BOX, Southpawswitch, White Trunks Black Trim and 8 others like this.
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,128
    44,881
    Mar 3, 2019
    He's the most dangerous in the division for anyone. That's not going to change until he slows down, which could be soon with his age and putting on weight

    Until the Fury rematch he can only be 2 imo and even then I'd have him at 3 or 4. He needs more good names on that résumé to be no.1
     
    George Crowcroft, May 24, 2019
    George Crowcroft, May 24, 2019
    #2
    kirk, Cdg, minemax and 3 others like this.
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

    244,336
    239,090
    Nov 23, 2013
    That's the reason I've always rooted for him, sure he lacks skill and is uncoordinated as all hell, but part of the reason many of us are fans of this sport, is because we like the brutal spectacle of it all. We want to be entertained and have a cathartic experience. Well his matches are invariably almost always entertaining, with the ever lingering question mark of will he be exposed tonight, and they almost always deliver the violence for us KO lovers out there, which is the vast majority of boxing fans. There's unskilled, sloppy, featherfisted yet dull fighters, which leads to 10 rounds slap fight wars that bore the hell out of you, but that's not the case here. To go to war with Wilder, its like threading a needle in the eye of a hurricane, so his opponents always have to be mindful of his power, which also adds to the tension. He's one of the few fighters whose matches, be it against bums or not, tend to be spectacles. So I'm still not sure how anyone can hate the guy. Not to mention, he loves playing the heel, like old school WWE guys in the 80's. He knows he has his fanboys sewn up, well like any good showman, he knows he needs to the loyal opposition, because sometimes hatred of a fighter brings in ratings as well. Half the audience tune in to see him deliver a huge KO, the other half tune in to see him get KTFO. Wilder is savvier than most of you seem to realize.
     
    CST80, May 24, 2019
    CST80, May 24, 2019
    #3
    RSBonos, DoubleJab666, kirk and 16 others like this.
  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,605
    11,775
    Jul 1, 2010
    His power is real

    When he loses though it will be via violent KO because his legs will be crossed over and he will be hitting air like swatting mosquitos at a BBQ and leave himself totally exposed.
     
    UniversalPart, May 24, 2019
    UniversalPart, May 24, 2019
    #4
  5. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,220
    2,308
    Apr 5, 2015
    I think he proved in the Ortiz fight he can get hurt and come back. That’s a test every fighter has to face at some point. Since that fight I’ve respected him more. Wilder is exactly what he says on the tin which is why I like him. He doesn’t pretend to be some sort of master technician. Your guaranteed drama when Wilder fights. And obviously his power is crazy. Joshua-Wilder is 50/50 at this moment in time IMO. The best fight to make in boxing currently. Shame it won’t happen anytime soon.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2019
    Work the body, May 24, 2019
    Work the body, May 24, 2019
    #5
    Southpawswitch, Vote46, Aydamn and 4 others like this.
  6. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

    463
    256
    Mar 1, 2019
    Yeah Wilder is the real deal because he fought 12 years and still hasn't fought a person who isn't/wasn't old or a tomato can. Yep and beating slow tomato can Dominic Breazeale proved Wilder is the greatest heavyweight who has ever lived. He clearly has the most amazing power of any heavyweight who ever lived. Which is why pretty much all of the "best" fighters he fought 50 year old Luiz Ortiz have been knocked out by other guys before they fought Wilder. Also for the most part these same fighters Wilder knocked out were knocked out much easier by other fighters.
     
    CarlChilders, May 24, 2019
    CarlChilders, May 24, 2019
    #6
    red_roo, Jacques81 and George Crowcroft like this.
  7. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

    5,191
    1,715
    Nov 22, 2014
    I thought Wilder was top 30 a few years ago. Now I see him as top 5 give or take.
     
    SmackDaBum, May 24, 2019
    SmackDaBum, May 24, 2019
    #7
    Cdg and madballster like this.
  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    29,548
    14,143
    Apr 4, 2012
    Definitely the #3 guy and the Povetkin he ran away from in 16 would have knocked him out.
     
    On The Money, May 24, 2019
    On The Money, May 24, 2019
    #8
    YearZero, Holler, Aston Villa and 2 others like this.
  9. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,898
    2,572
    Jan 27, 2014
    still amazing how people are in awe of a fighter knocking out a stationary fighter with one punch.
     
    Kratos, May 24, 2019
    Kratos, May 24, 2019
    #9
    deadACE, Tankatron, S.K and 7 others like this.
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,128
    44,881
    Mar 3, 2019
    That we knew was gonna happen
     
    George Crowcroft, May 24, 2019
    George Crowcroft, May 24, 2019
    #10
    Aston Villa and don owens like this.
  11. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

    1,728
    2,008
    Sep 12, 2015
    He over tries to be a showman and gets it so wrong! It's cringey, and to turn it into 80's wrestling shmack to boot as stated, Well.

    Jeez ... Say no more... Lol
     
    Cally, May 24, 2019
    Cally, May 24, 2019
    #11
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

    35,994
    23,946
    Feb 19, 2007
    im not sure what you mean by "real deal". can he ko anyone if he catches you? yes he can. is he a top 3 hw? yes he is. is his boxing ability overall, B or better? no its not.
    wilder is the beneficiary of half a dozen separate things that lined up just right, to put him where he is today. from the overall level of talent at hw, to the guys specifically chosen for wilder, to the way these guys choose to fight wilder, to the way fans interpret what they are seeing, to how willing those fans are to accept whatever they get served, etc...
    i dont hate wilder, i would much rather have an american hw champ than a foreigner. not because i care, but because i know how that bothers so many, and i think thats funny. but i got to be realistic about what i see, wilder cant fight, he just has very fast hands for the reaction times you find at hw. he hits hard, but not atg hard, he just finds you when you dont have time to react.
     
    bandeedo, May 24, 2019
    bandeedo, May 24, 2019
    #12
    Tankatron, Holler, Aston Villa and 3 others like this.
  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

    28,390
    39,782
    Jan 7, 2014
    Its no big deal, I can KO anyone if they stand in front of me like a plodding punch bag as well.
     
    mirkofilipovic, May 24, 2019
    mirkofilipovic, May 24, 2019
    #13
  14. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    29,548
    14,143
    Apr 4, 2012
    and DB got up, was a tko.
     
    On The Money, May 24, 2019
    On The Money, May 24, 2019
    #14
  15. BoxingPurest

    BoxingPurest Active Member Full Member

    619
    481
    Mar 6, 2019
    Wilder can punch and thats it lol he lets his punches go at the right time and catches guys standing stiff at the end of a punch,, You don't see if very often nowadays guys exchanging but Wilder is not afraid to let his hands go while you are punching either,, Talent wise not the greatest at all but he can punch and aint afraid to let'em fly,,
     
    BoxingPurest, May 24, 2019
    BoxingPurest, May 24, 2019
    #15
    Pimp C likes this.
Page 1 of 6