GOTTA ADMIT - WILDER is the REAL DEAL

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kiwi_in_America, May 24, 2019.


  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've always maintained that I admire how tenacious he is,doesn't know the meaning of the words giving up and that's incredible given how he ends up against Ortiz and Fury after eight rounds.
    The mental strength and ability to get up knowing you need the knockout or 10/8 round is like nothing I've ever seen actually.Anyone doubts this should think about how many times when someone's getting beat,like Hurd was against J Rock and we all say he needs a knockout but we all kinda know it won't happen.Think about how seldom those things happen and I'll bet it's because they're already mentally beat,this is why they can't physically pull off the late KO.
    Now I know there are some who still thinks that Wilders just getting lucky each time he does it but I'm calling B.S. on that as it happens to often to be anything other than intentional.
    In short his tenacity and belief in his own power allows him somehow to pull it off when it's needed,that friends and haters is a skill and it's as impressive as some slickster,star boxer performance imo.

    Re.His crass comments.I really don't care for them but he can back them up as appose to someone like Bellew or even Fury who talk a lot of crap about ripping their opponent's heads off and only bring 100% tactics each time.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Wel said, agree with everything you wrote.:thumbsup:
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes he's not a fake fighter that much is clear about him.
     
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  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey I'll take that.
    Funny how someone could read that and think I'm a Wilder fanboy as did one member on here last week did.Kept on telling me to take my thing out of Wilders **** lol and wouldn't have it that I've weighed in on the guy as !such as anyone on here lol.
    Being subjective or saying something positive about the enemy is not even conceivable to some of these guys,just shows to me the impact social media comment sections have had on some folk to the point where it's where they find their truth.
     
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  5. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is very entertaining for sure and I enjoy his fights.

    But then he opens his mouth ...

    Plus his team are a bunch of greasy cornballs. Just look at Winkel and Sulaiman, they are doing anything and everything to avoid AJ (and Whyte) until the last minute showing no care for what the fans really want. Needs to end.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Since nobody else is saying it, he might be the best conditioned modern heavyweight champion, discounting Holyfield who was juiced to the gills.

    Vitali is also high up with conditioning.
     
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  7. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was very critical of him but he turned me around after the Ortiz fight. He showed tons of heart coming back from being KO’d within an inch. Showed incredible stamina and of course the god given power.
     
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  8. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Nay he’s only got the right hand. Just like Floyd is feathfisted. /endsarcasm
     
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  9. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Pretty amazing guy, really
     
  10. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I respect him. You have to take him totally seriously. No one is going to go in there and toy with him. I will pick Fury and Joshua to beat him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he proves me wrong.
     
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  11. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Stop mocking the guy who lies and turns down 120 million? don't you guys realize he brings this on himself.

    Wilder was always a big puncher ,and anyone who really knows boxing knows just bc Wilder won his last fight ,hes still close to 50% in danger of losing to punchers even if he defeats them. most are to deranged to realize this.

    Most on here were saying he shouldn't put on weight ,how did that go last week ?

    Since this fight with Breazeale ( still a swing fight ,a fast fight doesn't change that ) lets really see who the most dangerous guy is seemingly based on that opponent.

    1. Wilder defeated Breazeale with what his best chance of winning was which was 223/225 , and assuming wilder is telling the truth here trained harder them before ( this would up his level that we haven't seen yet.

    Breazeale was up and on his feet as most Wilder opponents are thus far in title defenses.( Im showing this bc there seems to be amnesia going around with Joshua fights )that he doesn't knock out guys like Wilder . )

    Breazeale was also in very good shape about the same weight he fought Joshua. This is important bc it does show Wilder can legit hurt a guy fast ( Though Breazeales best weight is 250 ),even if he wont admit it ,the way he fought however wouldn't change what happened. )

    2. Joshua had defeated Breazeale in fight 17 and not being 100% . Despite this he had Breazeale hurt in round 2 ( the ref arguably gave Breazeale unnecessary recovery time)

    Joshua ended the fight in round 7.Breazeale did not get up. Its an actual knock out.


    This is Joshuas actual title defense knockouts where guys are on the floor and stay there

    1. Whyte ( only stopped by AJ )
    2. Breazeale ( wilder does not get that )
    3. Povetkin ( never been stopped)\

    THIS IS IN 6 TITLE DEFENSE

    This is wilders actual knockouts in title fights.

    1. Szpilka ( was stopped by Jennings previously)
    2. Molina( though he was climbing the ropes, thats not even a real K.O, even stunned wilder )

    THIS IS IN 9 TITLE DEFENSES ( unless your like me and see Fury as the actual WBC champion. )

    The rest were not out or were still upright having the fight waved off .

    So you may want to consider this dangerous thing bc well...that's Joshua. And referee stoppages with Klitschko , Takam and Molina all would have been put out as well. if were going to use early stoppages it works both ways even though they were getting pummeled ? lol

    So who's actually more dangerous wilder at 224 plus ( he cant be that foolish to fight AJ less then that ) or Joshua ?

    Well one guy rarely loses rounds, was never saved by bells ,shows he can end fights when he decided its time ,all around the board has much better skills ,style and ring IQ as well as corner ?

    IDK about you but im going with Joshua here. This is boxing not who hits harder ,.you do realize this right ? lol

    The real deal ? Well real deals don't run away from unification /undisputed fights this is what hes been doing ,the fans that want to see the fight are idiotic that go along with him bc it doesn't make it possible . SMH.

    Real deals would also suggest its Furys belt.

    If Wilder wants to be the real deal and not just a real puncher he has to step up ,even in defeat he would stop being labeled as a ducker and everything else he brings on himself.
     
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  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On one hand it seems he is the real deal, on the other you cant deny he is highly protected. If he is that good why would he be so protected?
     
  13. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very much what I think about him.Don't quite understand why they never talk about making boxing history?
    So far we've had lots of stuff about wanting so many millions of billions of dollars,something about wanting a dead opponent(some look halfway there to begin with lol)and let's not forget stuff about being black and oppressed but I'm not sure I recall him talking about wanting to become undisputed champion of the world.
     
  14. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    I suppose better late to the party than never...
    Stop listening to the haters, whether here on this great forum, or the snakes in the media...
    Watch him for yourself...
     
  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By the same token this is boxing and the opponent is allowed to hit you. If you want to compare the two Joshua has been hit and hurt from Whyte and Wlad?Not really interested in comparing,merely pointing out that it's unusual to see a boxer who doesn't get punched in the head.