Grading the Big Drama Show (Golovkin's career under Abel Sánchez)

See... I just mention you in a post and you attack like a ravaged rat looking for an ankle to bite... And I don't get butthurt, I just get even..lol... Just look at who I just triggered!

 

It was difficult for him to get people into the ring and to some extent it still is, but not like it was when he operating on peak form. Years back GGG wasn't a big paycheck type of a draw for an opponent. And he was a p4p elite who's style was grueling and painful for the opponent. Essentially if you fought him you risked everything and gained nothing because he took your soul. You were facing a near certain KO or TKO loss, a trip to the hospital, your badly damaged physically, your reputation harmed as you lay flat on the canvas and on top of all this you weren't really receiving much compensation.

Contrast this to a guy like Floyd Mayweather who at the time everybody wanted to fight. He was a guy who if you fought you faced near certainties, but they weren't as bothersome. You were facing a near certain UD loss, a massive boost to your brand, virtually no physical damage done to your body and a payday that set you up for life.

That said now that GGG is in decline the very best of the very best at MW are now puffing out their chest a little more. It showed in the Monroe and Brook fights that age is catching up to him. GGG can probably still dispatch mid level/low level contenders with ease, but he's no longer good enough to destroy the best in the world. The best fighters like Jacobs and Canelo fought him recently because they realize that they can actually beat him now. And BJS who at one time would pis his pants at the thought of fighting Golovkin is now interested in a fight. And would probably be favored to win at this point if we're just going to be blunt about it.

 

As for the actual answer to the thread it's an A+. GGG was already very good when Sanchez started working with him. He turned him into a great fighter.

Golovkin's skillset lended itself to pressure fighting. He had a tremendous chin, solid defense behind the jab, incredible power and footwork, he knew how to cut off the ring. And something that gets overlooked all the time is he had a serious gas tank at one point. It was no ordinary gas tank. I'm not saying he was the 2nd coming of Aaron Pryor, but gotdamn that onslaught he threw at Curtis Stevens was never ending.

 

For a Kazakh who barely speaks english having two PPV's around 150K is an accomplishment IMO. There are very good American boxers who cant sell 100K PPVs.

Plus he's famous enough to receive good money from brands such as Apple, Jordan and others

I think his move to America was " great succes" ( in my Borat voice )

 

I gotta disagree, it would be borderline A if his defense existed, but I just don't see it. A great defense isn't about blocking punches with your face.

 

I know IB was just trying to make an analogy when he was talking about the change in Pac's style before Roach. Before Roach he was a wild brawler and after Roach he was a more controlled in an out volume puncher. I think Roach refined him a little and of course that helped, but I think the biggest difference was that Roach gave Pacquiao access to food and nutrition. By 2001 Pacquiao was the most physically dominant fighter in the world which could not have happened without proper diet. From 2001-2008 he the world's most vicious and physical fighter in boxing.

 

It seems so small when you compare it to what a small Philippino fighter who could barely speak English, with no real amateur background accomplished

 

Out of nowhere digs are a sign that you're butthurt - I get clashing with someone you don't like and disagree with regularly, but these lame obsessive attacks out of nowhere? I've clearly gotten under your skin old man.

 

Pacquiao's situation was different. First, he was a better fighter than Golovkin was. Second, he was more exciting than Golovkin was. Third, he had better fighters in and around his weight class and those fighters were not afraid to fight Pacquiao.

 

Saying I don't share the same enthusiasm as you is a dig? I think of it more of an opinion. Don't start what you can't handle scuba fury. Don't start whining now..lol

 

That Philippino is a legend, an ATG, I'm sure you know Pac is an exception, not the rule. And how deep were/ still are the lower weights matter a whole lot

 

My question is, if GGG isn't an A+ or an A in career, then WHO IS?

Somebody said Floyd. I could go with that. Who else? Seriously?

As for the "B" rating, pfft. If he's a B then everybody else in boxing right now are C and D with a couple of exceptions, maybe.

 

Hagler and Paquiao were A + so you're saying there is no difference whatsoever between Hagler/ Pacman and Golovkin.

A + is the highest rating a fighter can get. There is nothing above it so essentially GGG is up there with Ali , Robinson , Duran , Joe Louis , Mayweather etc.

He's up there with the best that ever lived despite never beating a p4p level boxer , existing in an extremely weak era and got a gift against the best guy he faced and a draw against the other.

He's very clearly not A+.

B or B+ is nothing to sniff at. Thats what he is.