Grandpa Ortiz is next for Wilder then Winnie Pooh Kownacki

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you cant?maybe it's this kinda stuff that's the problem as the money is a given.I don't like the A side thing as a rule but it does seem like Wilder is gonna dig his toes in and get every single thing or else it doesn't happen.
     
  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so given your reasoning how is Kownacki any better than Ruiz as he hasn't fought anyone near Parkers level?
    Seriously Heavyweight division and pro boxing in particular has always been about beating those that you're supposed to beat(not a given at HW)and step up on the night against the best.
    Can only imagine what folk would say about Lennox and Wlad now with their surprise defeats,they're be on the scrap heap and castigated on here most likely?
    No mention of how good they are to go undefeated when all it takes is a bad night.
     
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  3. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Active Member Full Member

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    Yep bad for us fans excellent for the fighters pockets.. The casuals interest in this fights has jumped significantly through the roof in the US based off this KO to the point where I feel Wilder will be offered more than the $40 mil DAZN originally offered earlier for the AJ fight.. and I wouldn’t be surprised if DAZN raise the price to at least $40 the month of this fight
     
  4. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 28-0 WBC Peoples Champ + Lineal Full Member

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    Both of those fight will pretty much end up like Breazeale but Wilder's team know this cause they a building up a legend try try and get some more money off AJ when they do meet..
     
  5. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kownacki is slow and easy to hit.

    Joshua is only fighting Ruiz because Miller was caught cheating, and Wilder and Whyte have been avoiding him.

    Joshua has fought everyone who is willing, he's avoided no one and has beaten many prime undefeated fighters (Parker, Whyte, etc).

    Wilder in contrast has carefully chosen old guys like Ortiz and Stiverne, Joshua's leftovers like Breazeale, journeymen like old Washington, shot fighters like Arreola and chinny HWs like Szpilka.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    only I'm not sure that's the case?Hearn wanted Wilders stock to rise also and neither team wanted this in 2018.wouldn't surprise me if this was mutual and it has worked as all this finger pointing as so called offers has kept it going g in the public eyes.
    Trick is now, not to overcook it,budget behind closed doors and get it done.
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe cause he fights for one of the shadiest orgs around in the WBC?not sure that's fair throwing it on Wilder like he has a choice.Wilder is not scared of anyone and 're Ortiz he may be 100yr old but I would have him beating Parker.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hmm Amazing, so he prefers to fight Brezeale, Ortiz II and then Kownacki. How much will he make per fight? $2 milllion?

    I really hope the cherry picking will eventually backfire in a spectacular way.
     
  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All promoters are there to look out for their man,which means choosing opposition at the right time.Who thinks Hearn would of picked Wlad if he was undefeated and dominating the likes of Pulev?
    I'm not a Wilder fan but how is him picking Ortiz any different?may not have the pedigree and skill of Wlad but nobody wanted Ortiz Inc Joshua as he brings nothing to the table with too much risk.Anyone doubts this need only to look into Joshua and Hearn recently wanting Ortiz on the top of their list after Miller got banned so clearly they didn't view Ortiz as a no good opponent.
     
  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua has just tried to secure Ortiz himself.
     
  11. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder has zero ambition. Fact.
     
  12. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member booted Full Member

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    Kownacki beat two people Deontay Widler beat and did it easier.
     
  13. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member booted Full Member

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    Lol Joshua beat old Wlad and struggled doing so. Beat old Povetkin. He beat Joseph Parker a fighter most people think lost to Andy Ruiz and he beat Whyte a nobody. Also kid when did I type Wilder beat somebody good? I flat out stated numerous times that Wilder is a joke. But so is Anthony Joshua.

    Wlad good beat by Ross Purritty, Corrie Sanders, and Lamon Brewster. So AJ fought their sloppy seconds. AJ fought Eric Molina. Chris Arreola and Deontay Wilder's sloppy seconds so what is your point?
     
  14. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wilder and his crony team will be shocked when the wbc orders a fight against whyte if he beats rivas instead of ortiz next.
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As a short term sub after Miller failed the PED test. Ortiz wasn't on AJ's radar because he's uninteresting. For Wilder's handlers, Oritz is on their radar and they want to rematch them. The fight makes no sense at all.
     


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