Great Ali vs Tyson breakdown

Tillis never KO'd or stopped the calibre of opponents Ali stopped. He does not hit as hard as Ali. Nobody ever just walked through Ali's punches.

You shouldn't. My home town is terrible lol.

That was a very green Ali who was being careless and got caught in an otherwise 1 sided fight from start to finish. At least he got off the floor to win, something Tyson never did in his whole career.

Ali doesn't need to knock down Tyson. He could easily outpoint him if he survives the first 5 rounds and gets in his head. Ali could also stop Tyson on his feet once he runs out of steam and has major swelling late in the fight.

 

Is this even up for discussion?? Ali 10 out of 10 times and this is coming from someone who despises Ali!

 

Watched that vid yesterday.

More and more eval. often come with the conclusion of both guys not stopping each other. And I tend to agree with this more often as I think about it.
The question of course: Is it 12 or is it 15 rounds. Since we never saw Tyson fighting 15 (he stopped Biggs in the historical last 15 round contest!) it doesn´t make much sense to ask another unknown question in a anyhow fantasy fight. So we´re talking about 12 rounds. Douglas landet a wicked 52 % of punches inside 10 rounds (thats 230 blows!) to finally stop him. To finally drop him, he got him with a 5 punch combination of a 1: Jab 2: Right Uppercut 3) Left Hook 4) Straight Right 5) Straight Left. Set this to 0.25 speed. The straight left after he got him with that right hand looks just brutal.

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You can lamet all you want about Douglas KO% and stuff, a fellow who appeared out of shape in half of his fights. Seems like the Ferguson fight isn´t on YT anymore. He brutally hurt him in the last seconds of round 1. I just don´t see this power on the 210lb Ali.

Against Tucker, Tyson took 124 punches (28%), Thomas landet 89 in 7 rounds (41%) and Holyfield landet 138 and 110 power shots on him (35%). Tillis landet 133 (23%), Biggs landet 63 (27%).

The fighters who are most similar to Tyson Ali landet on in 12 rounds (many fights 15 rounds) and the fighters that took a young Ali 12 rounds or more: 257 on Frazier 1 (in 12 rounds), 172 on Frazier 2, 210 on Patterson 1 (TKO 12, over 800 thrown!), 154 on Mildenberger (TKO 12), 158 punches on Bonavena (TKO 15, with three more rounds of punches), 365 on Chuvalo 1, 202 on Terell, 175 on Norton 2.
He threw a lot, and interesting for me, didn´t land as much as I thought. He landet 25% on Patterson 1 and Mildenberger, 38% on Frazier 1, 37% on Terell and 32% on Bonavena. The more durable fighters of the 60s hadn´t much problem of taking him 12 while taking about the number of shots Tucker landet on Tyson or more. He was just a little feather-fisted, prob. due to throwing alot of punches in the first place.

Tyson would be on the side of the better and more durable boxers here. Alot of fighters landet extremely few against him, while Ali himself threw alot of shots and landet very threw himself on many fighters.

So the YT video might be very correct that this is more a question of who would win more rounds inside of 12 than any other strange over-dominant stoppage blabla worship scenarios.

 

One day I'm going to buy you a treat.

 

I´d rather like you to stop these silly votes (like in the Quarry thread) ^^