Great and not-so-great "classic" fights from the past

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Inspired by the recent Moore-Durelle and Basilio-Saxton threads, some fight legends outgrow the actual documented footage, whereas others genuinely stand up to their reputation as classics.

    With this in mind, what filmed fights from the 60s back stand up to their general reputation as being "great" fights and which "great" ones are somewhat underwhelming by modern standards?

    I'll start off with the aforementioned examples:
    -Moore-Durelle is every bit as good as its legendary status, unquestionably one of the greatest title fights in boxing history.
    -Basilio-Saxton was called 1956's Fight Of The Year by The Ring. It was good, but not an out and out great fight imo.
     
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  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Modern standards are more underwhelming than 60s fight standards, so I'll just go by what I think

    Fights that live up to the rep of the 60s:
    Ali vs Williams
    Foster vs Tiger
    Frazier vs Mathis
    Patterson vs Johannson 2&3

    Fights that aren't as good as I remembered:
    Ali vs Liston 1
    Ali vs Patterson 1
    Liston vs Williams 2
     
  3. Jel

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    Just to be clear, by modern standards I’m talking about the 1970s onwards, so not sure I agree with you about modern standards being underwhelming.
     
  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Eh, I'd still say the 20s-70s was the peak of boxing
     
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  5. Seamus

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    Botha Schulz remains the high water mark against which all these fights are to be measured.
     
  6. Jel

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    It's an arbitrary distinction, I know, but the thread is for fights from the early days of fight films (1900s/1910s) up to the end of the 1960s.

    Not suggesting 1970s wasn't a classic period for boxing but I was referring to "classics" from the less recent past.
     
  7. Jel

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    That should go without saying, obvs.
     
  8. Jel

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    The Ring made a list of the 100 greatest title fights in history back in 1996 (not the March issue @mark ant) which serves as a pretty good reference point for the so-called "classic" fights from the past:
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_100_Greatest_Title_Fights_of_All-Time

    Most deserve to be on the list based on the quality of the fight but checking out the top 20, there are ones there that are probably on there for their historical significance rather than the in-ring action.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Early 80's champs, most at the same time included

    Holmes
    Spinks/Qawi
    Hagler
    Hearns/Benitez/Duran
    Leonard
    Pryor
    Arguello
    Camacho
    Sanchez/Pedroza
    Gomez
    Chandler/Pintor

    I wouldn't be stopping at the 70's that's for sure. The above is insane.
     
  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Immediately after writing that I regretted not putting in the 80s btw
     
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  11. Gazelle Punch

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    Marciano v Charles was billed as fight of the year I believe. Although the 15 round was interesting I wasn’t pleased w the rest of the fight.
    Marciano v Walcott 1 though was an extremely entertaining fight to watch.
    Louis v Buddy Baer
    Liston v Williams so many good fights
    Non title fight Layne v Satterfield
     
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  12. Gazelle Punch

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    If anyone has a Willie Pep fight that should be watched let me know! I usually just stick to heavy weights though
     
  13. Jel

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    I nearly stopped at the end of the 50s. The point was to analyse older fights that have been passed down from generation to generation as great fights and assess whether they truly were, based on the available film. No question that the 70s had brilliant fights but we all know how brilliant they were. Probably should have established a clearer logic in my original thread post, but... there you go.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    I believe Basilio holds the record for being in the most "Fights Of The Year"? At least he used to.
     
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    The second Robinson v Turpin fight ,a guy I used to work with saw it, he was in the British Navy ,he said it wasn't that exciting, until the finish.
     
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