Great Article

Every fightter.... EVERY FIGHTER... ALL FIGHTERS.. those probably watch more boxing and participate in boxing and know the ins and out of Professional boxing SCORED IF for MARQUEZ... ALL OF THEM... Effective aggression means nothing if you don't hit your target OFTEN..... Pac did not do that. The fact that there are GIFS floating around the web from several different rounds proves JMM landed the more telling blows that night. Pac couldn't come in with that Wild Donkey Swinging but JMM was tattooing him every chance he got. So if the judges gave the close rounds to the one who was moving forward then they were just looking at the fight and not being judges of coming forward and pressing the action or jumping in and out and getting hit every time you threw a flurry of punches....

 

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Matthysse vs Alexander was a close fight, but there was a very clear winner in Matthysse

 

yes, "vast majority of fans know who won" and those same majority, especially yours, your opinions don't mean **** and don't contribute to nothing in the history books now do they

good, i hope u and everyone else who "realize", that you ***s and bitches gtfo and stop watching boxing. **** so stupid how folks claim to b hardcore fans yet ***** about how corrupt and ****ed up things are, how bout if you don't like it, bounce then *****, yet you'd rather stay and moan about how wrong and corrupt and o stfu and cry me a river

its easy, if you don't like what u watching, change the channel

"espn is corrupt"?...so you don't agree with them putting lil floyd as #1 p4p...there u have it, cable don't agree with espn's corruption

and the reason you stopped believing in santa is cuz he didn't bring you your blow up blonde last year

 

and again, the champ got the W in a close fight


The Judges did a great job scoring Pacquiao-Marquez III; Mike Jones talks about Joe Frazier's death; Theophane-Wright on 12/10

By Danny Serratelli: Despite what many boxing fans think it is extremely difficult to accurately determine who won a 12 round fight under the 10-point must scoring system if you do not score the fight round by round as the official judges do. As most boxing fans know each round is usually scored 10-9, unless there is a knockdown, point deduction, truly even round, or in other limited instances such as when a fighter is thoroughly dominated and is able to remain on his feet the entire round.​

People are constantly accusing boxing judges of being corrupt. While there are always exceptions the fact is that most of the individuals making these accusations should educate themselves on the subject. Many do not understand how the fights are scored; they often think their experience as a trainer, fighter or working in boxing makes them an expert on who won the fight. This is regardless of the fact that most of these people do not take the time to keep score.​

The guilty parties are not scoring round by round; they are just watching the fight as whole. This will often give you a very different perception of who won the fight. On top of that, the majority of the “experts” are watching pay per view in loud bars and homes, drinking, eating and listing more to the guy next to them or the commentary. To truly score a fight properly, you need to get in a zone like many of the professional judges do. Lock in on the fight with no distractions and score the fight round by round without taking into account the crowd or the commentary.​

A closer analysis of the Pacquiao vs. Moralez fight illustrates why many fans are calling it a robbery, while knowledgeable boxing people either agree the judges were on point or that they are at least honestly in the ballpark. Punchstat numbers while sometimes useless, appeared to be useful in this instance. Pacquaio landed around 40 more punches and threw around 140 more punches. In this fight almost every round was close and many could have been scored either way. The rounds won by the widest margin were won by Juan Manuel Marquez. The cleanest and sharpest punches of the evening also were landed by Marquez. However, it appeared Pacquiao won more of the close rounds. He was busier and appeared to have the edge in ring generalship and effective aggressiveness in the rounds that were up for grabs.​

Something else to be considered is that Pacquiao was around a 9-1 favorite and the public perception among most fans was that Pacquiao would walk through him. It is also important to remember that styles make fights and this match up will always create a competitive fights. People were starting to forget that Pacquiao is human and there is no handicap in boxing. The rounds must be judged without any bias stemming from expectations. The fact that Marquez performed better than expected and is perceived by the casual fan as winning doesn’t go for the knowledgeable boxing judge who is scoring each round individually and separately.​

I scored the fight 115-113 for Pacquiao live, I then re-scored it in a more quiet setting and came back with the same result, but became more aware of how many rounds could have reasonably went the other way. 115-113 either way to me would not be controversial at all. Again, with all the close rounds 116-112 is not a travesty either and I think judges Dave Moretti 115-113, Robert Hoyle 114-114 and Glenn Trowbridge 116-112 all did a respectable job. I do not understand how anyone can say that any scores in this range is corrupt considering how close and difficult it was to score many rounds in the fight.​

What is a travesty is to listen to a bunch of so called boxing experts, fans and people who barely watch the fight (and definitively do not score it). They jump on a popular bandwagon and give boxing more bad PR because they love to talk about corruption and fixes, drugs and negativity instead of about how Pacquiao and Marquez just put on another great fight.​

 

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*******s and their pitiful attempts to validate their outrageous claims.

 

"I want you guys to really take your emotions out of this and just try to be objective with what I’m about to say. People really don’t understand boxing. They judge fights as if the fight is ONE BIG 36 minute fight. It’s not like that. It’s the totality of 12 separate 3 minute rounds.

The reason why I bring this up is this: if I raced you 12 times in a 100 meter sprint. If you beat me by 10 meters in 5 of the races and I beat you by 2 inches in 7 of the races, I still won more races than you. Marquez won the rounds he won, more clearly and dominant, I agree with that totally. The rounds Manny won were more out-hustle rounds than dominant rounds. But nevertheless he won them. I think this is why everyone is so outraged.

I remember the same thing with Jermain Taylor-Bernard Hopkins I. Hopkins won his rounds more clear, but he won less of them in my opinion, where as Taylor kind of outhustled him. Guys, I’m not trying to sway anybody but think about what I’m saying. In a fight with NO 10-8 rounds or knockdowns all of the rounds are scored 10-9. Don’t look at who won each round more dominantly, look at who won more of the rounds. I think Manny won more rounds. "

 

If that's why you think people are scoring it for Marquez then I understand why you feel that way, but that's wrong.
I agree with the Hopkins/Taylor fight where Hopkins beat his ass in the last part of the fight, but he didn't win more rounds than him and lost and I scored it for JT.

But in this fight, most people have provided actually scorecards rbr.

 

wrong by who's account

and again, sure most people want to provide score cards but who's opinion really matters

boils down to whats on paper

sure folks will feel a certain way, but at the end of the day, whats done is done and the folks with these "opinions", can't change the facts

and the facts, manny is now 2-0-1 and **** drinker is 0-2-1. sure many people have it for **** drinker, but that isn't a TRUE fact, only opinions and according to lil floyd, "everybody entitled to they own opinon"

 

good read

 

statistically speaking, manny did better

 

It's wrong because that's not why people thought he won

And the fact is officially Lara lost to Williams....but