Great boxers with bad records#

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by OuterDrake, Feb 2, 2009.


  1. OuterDrake

    OuterDrake Guest

    To kick it off, Jack Thompson

    18-20(11ko)

    Wins on Sam Langford,Mcvey,Joe jeannette(debut) and 12 rounds with Jack Johnson before getting ko.

    Looks like he hoped right in into competition from a early start.I assume he

    was a protege of the african american boxing elites of the early 1900s,fighting them repeatedly while losing-drawing and winning occasionally.

    discuss..
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Of course this is almost certainly an incomplete record.

    Jeff Clark had a loosing record on boxrec a couple of years agao before his career was researched more extensivley and he is recognised today as one of the greatest pound for pound fighters of his era.

    Big Bill Tate is another guy who has poor numbers on paper but mixed with the best and beat them ocasionaly.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not great, but Emmanuel Augustus and Saul Mamby are two great recent examples.

    Ezzard Charles has a extremely misleading record, simply looking at the numbers. 92-25. You wouldn't look at that statistic and think top five ATG great. But the slide came hard and fast for Charles.

    Then there's Mike Weaver, 41-18, and 52-19 Joe Choynski.
     
  4. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Medel, better than his record suggests?
     
  5. $.02

    $.02 Undisputed Heavyweight Full Member

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    define bad record.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Misleading numbers.
     
  7. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see what you mean. I took it as fighters that were better than there win loss ratio, not looking at their competition doesn't do them justice. Does that make sense?
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Iran Barkley, 43-19-1. I would say Iran was better than all those defeats suggest. He does live off his two wins against Hearns to a certain extent. Not a bad operator nonetheless.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yup. One of the best Bantamweights of one of the most stacked eras in the division's history. Such constant difficult competition from front to back of a career will put a lot of L's on your record, many coming early and late during his career when he was not at his best.
     
  10. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Raul Cruz, mexican bantam

    !8-16-2 record included 10 men who were to become, had been or were current champions.
    Split 2 with chucho Castillo, beat Ricardo Arredondo and Rafael Herrera.
     
  11. OuterDrake

    OuterDrake Guest


    :patsch What was I thinking trusting boxrec?
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    We don't particularly have anything else approaching it to even begin to compare, now do we?
     
  13. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i remember this guy named darryl pickney for what his record suggests he beat junior jones and guty espadas.

    karino garcia, 38-28-4

    cult legend who lost 18 fights staight and then beat faded meldrick taylor, simon brown, frankie randall, jorge vaca and some thought he beat a prime david reid.
     
  14. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bunny Sterling and Jesse Burnett.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bennie Briscoe's record is misleading. An ungodly amount of close calls, and then there's the fact that he avenged 3/4ths of his losses and stuck around way too long.