Great fighter who SHOULDN'T have been successful

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Jul 19, 2007.


  1. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    Yeah, I see according to boxrec he was 200 or more from the Archie Moore fight (Nov.'62) onwards. Before that he was under 200.

    I didn't count, but I guess that's about half his fights from the 1960s.
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    it isn't 'most of the 60's' though.....;O)
     
  3. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ron Lyle wasn't a bad fighter at all and was a big puncher. And no one dismantled Frazier like Foreman did. And even though Chuvalo didn't go down in that fight with Foreman he was still hurt. Nobody hurt Chuvalo except for Foreman.
     
  4. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Matthew Saad Muhammad, Lennox Lewis, and Ray Mancini.
     
  5. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano, white, a bleeder, uncoordinated, looping arm punches. Does every single aspect of boxing wrong, wins every fight.
     
  6. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh eerrmm Joe Frazier?? I think a broken cheek bone and eye socket with one left hook may have hurt to judging by the way Chuvalo turns to run away into the corner cowering away?? Fast forward to 9mins 30

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bkggQMKOzdg
     
  7. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i believe people get what they deserve and hard work, mental toughness, tactical brains, bravery ect are as important as technique and physical size/speed/power

    that said jimmy wilde and canzoneri came to mind immediatly
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was strong as a bull, could hit like a ton of bricks and enjoyed his work...aside from that, I can't figure it out.
     
  9. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I got a guy who's short, stoop shouldered and balding with two left feet. They all look better than he does as far as the moves are concerned, but they don't look so good on the canvas. God, how he can punch.

    Charlie Goldman, Marciano's trainer [4]
     
  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano...started late 24-25 yrs old...short...short arms...awkward...made up for it with a great workrate...never say die attitude...great power...stamina...chin...etc
     
  11. heavy_hands

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  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maxie Rosembloom......zero power in his fists......but a very successful lightheavy back in the tough 1930's era.
     
  13. Rex Tickard

    Rex Tickard Active Member Full Member

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    Jackie "Kid" Berg.

    Not a big puncher, nor particularly skilled or versatile - a very basic style of just marching forward and throwing a ton of punches. Yet he put together a lengthy string of wins including several over fellow HOFers. Go figure. :dance