Great Fighters' AMATEUR Records...

I think Foreman had a few losses as an amateur, actually...I don't know who to, but I'm almost certain he didn't go unbeaten.

 

Well hey...how's about this, from this very site!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10493&more=1

He says George racked up 22-4.

 

:good

he really shouldnt lie on camera then should he

 

Terry Norris 291-4

 

it was said that he wasnt a violent guy so knocking a guy out didnt make sense if you could easily outbox them.

but in the pro legues you change you know your fighting a man who is trying to knock you out where as in the ams you are just trying to win...this is that big change that only the great amatuers-to-proffesional seem to get over. duane bobick was a good show of this in the ams great had power speed and great skills. in pro he had all that but didnt want to fight more or less win.

 

is that true i heard he was a good lightwieght to welter didnt know he was goign for that long in the ams.:huh
thanx for that:good

 

Anybody know what Mark Breland's record was?

 

I keep hearing all these different records for Tyson.

 

Wiki says it was 110-1.

I wonder what Antonio Tarver's was. He was a hell of an amateur fighter.

 

I researched Tarver's amateur record once, I'll look it up tomorrow among my notes.

 

He had perhaps a good record, but he wasn´t that good. I have seen a fight against Aurino, and he got a draw, but Pietro was robbed big time, and Aurino isn´t that special, but, perhaps it was only a bad performance...

 

I dont think so, Breland was something like 420-7 (or am I getting confused :huh ) he won 5 golden gloves titles on the run

 

Not a great fighter but Jerry Quarry had a fine amateur record,in the Golden Gloves he stopped all 5 of his opponents, I beelive that s a record,pity he never went to the Olympics.

 

Im pretty sure Julio Cesar Chavez was either 10-0 or 12-0 in the amatuers.

 

Here's Tarver's amateur record that I was able to research:

1992 State Amateur Boxing Championships
1992-01-18 KO1 win over unnamed opponent
1992-01-19 KO2 win over Henry Blue, weight 178 pounds, finals. Tarver has returned to boxing at the end of 1990 (after cutting off with drugs), and for 7 months has been trained by Pinklon Thomas.

1992 United States Boxing Federation's nationals (in Colorado Springs, CO)
Tarver lost in quarterfinals and thus missed the chance to get to the Olympics. Tarver parted with Pinklon Thomas shortly before this tournament.

1993 United States Boxing Association Championships (in Colorado Springs, CO)
1993-03-06 Tarver (record 92-6) wins in the final at 178 pounds, he defeated on points Frank Vasser (record 50-21)
on the way to the final he defeated one opponent by TKO, second by KO, third by unanimous decision (exact names not given)

USA vs Commonwealth of Independent States (Birmingham, Alaska)
1993-03-26 Tarver beats BY TKO3 Igor Kshinin, 178 pounds (USA won 11 fights out of 12), referee Rich Neves stops it 25 sec before the end of the round, after 3 knockdowns.

1993-04-09 Tarver (record 95-6) outpoints Frank Vassar (record 66-26), light heavyweight. Judges counted 66 landed punches for Tarver in 3 rounds.

1993 World Championships (Tampere, Finland)
1993-05-10 Tarver lost on points to Jacklord Jacobs.

USA vs Cuba (Biloxi, Mississippi)
1993-09-25 Tarver lost to Ramon Garbey.

1994 U.S. Olympic Festival
1994-07-04 Tarver wins semifinal by outpointing (17-13) Anthony Stewart. After 1st round he was ahead 9-0.
1994-07-05 Tarver wins final by outpointing Byron Mitchell, unanimous decision 3-0 (electronic system of scoring the rounds was broken)

1994 U.S. Nationals
Tarver loses in quarterfinal.

1994 National Golden Gloves
Tarver won the tournament.

1994 USA vs Cuba
Tarver lost very close decision to Juan Carlos Gomez, this fight is available on film.

1995-01-22 Tarver defeats Benjamin McDowell, light heavyweights, and earns a go to the Pan-American Games.

1995 USA vs Russia
1995-02-18 Tarver beats Evgeniy Makarenko, by UD. He scored 2 standing knockdowns and at the end of the 2nd round even knocked off Makarenko's helmet.

XII Pan American Games (Mar Del Plata, Argentina)
1995-03-19 Tarver stops Oscar Amador (Mexico) 17 sec. before the end of the 2nd round. 4 days before the fight Tarver weighed 170.
1995-03-21 Tarver wins quarterfinal by outpointing (11-10) Diosvany Vega (Cuba). After 1st round Tarver was ahead 6-2, although he received a standing KD count from a left.
1995-03-24 Tarver wins semifinal, name of opponent not given.
1995-03-26 Tarver wins final by stopping Thompson Garcia (Ecuador) at 3rd second (that's official time, probably not quite correct) from the beginning of the 2nd round, after he knocked the opponent down with two lefts.

1995-04-05 Tarver outpointed (24-6) Joseph Busse.

1995 World Championships
1995-05-09 Tarver got to quarterfinal against Milorad Gajovic (Yugoslavia). Tarver lost 1st round 0-2, then scored 2 standing knockdowns in the 2nd round, was 3 points ahead a minute before the end of the fight, but ended it as a draw 6-6. Judges gave the bout to Tarver.
In quarterfinal Tarver closely outpointed Pietro Aurino (Italy).
1995-05-12 Tarver wins semifinal by outpointing (9-6) Vassily Jirov (Kazakhstan).
1995-05-14 Tarver wins the final by outpointing (7-3) Diosvani Vega (Cuba).

1995 Olympic Festival
Tarver missed this tournament due to hand injury.

1995 USA vs. Puerto Rico (Orlando, FL)
1995-09-09 Tarver was supposed to meet with Jose Gomez, but instead he faced Edgara Santos, and defeated him on points.

1995 World Championships Challenge
This is a tournament where two best fighters in the world meet in each of 12 weight divisions.
1995-10-28 Tarver outpoints (9-5) Diosvani Vega (Cuba) in five 2-minute rounds.

1995 National Police Athletic League Boxing Championships
1995-11-04 Tarver got to U.S. Olympic Trials by unanimously outpointing Orlanda Anderson (Fort Huachuca, Ariz.).

1996 Olympic Trials (Oakland, Calif.)
1996-04-03 Tarver stops Limmie Young at 1:36 of the 3rd round, when Tarver was ahead on points 12-0.
1996-04-04 Tarver wins semifinal by outpoints (8-1) Tim Williamson, although by the middle of the bout Tarver didn't score a single point, but then he started flurrying and after a left his opponent received a standing KD count.
1996-04-06 Tarver was supposed to meet Glenn Robinson in the final, but the latter didn't attend the fight on time (claiming he thought the fight was to be held at a latter time, but he lost his appeal, as three trainers confirmed they told him the fight was at noon, not in the evening), he was disqualified and lost a chance to get into Box-Off's too and was replaced by Anthony Stewart, who beat Tarver in 1994, but has lost to him twice since then.

1996 Olympic Box-Offs
1996-04-19 Tarver outpoints (17-0) Anthony Stewart and goes to the Olympics.

1996 USA vs Germany (Portland, Ore.)
1996-05-18 Tarver outpointed (9-5) Thomas Ulrich.

1996 USA vs Russia
1996-06-17 Tarver outpointed (31-11) Igor Dzagoyev. Tarver received a flash knockdown in the 1st round, although he still won the round 6-2, he was ahead after 2nd round 22-5.

USA Boxing - A Night With America's Team
1996-06-22 Tarver stops Corey Maxey 40 sec. before the end of the 3rd round. In 1st round he scored a standing KD. Maxey won Florida Golden Gloves, was 2nd at the National Police Athletic League tournament, won Sunshine State Games three times, he sparred with Tarver often at that time too.

1996 Olympic Games (Atlanta)
1996-07-24 Tarver outpointed (5-2) Dmitriy Vybornov (Russia). Both soutpaw counter-punchers, at the start of 3rd round Tarver was ahead 3-2. A day before the fight Tarver was seven pounds above the 178 pounds limit.
1996-07-28 Tarver got to quarterfinals by KO1 of David Kowah (Sierra Leone).
1996-07-31 Tarver got to semifinal by stopping Enrique Flores (Puerto Rico) 1:06 before the end of the 3rd round. Tarver was ahead 3-1 after 1st round, scored one or two (sources differ) standing KD's, and two more standing KD's in the 3rd round after which the bout was stopped. Tarver was ahead 18-3 at the time, although his trainer tricked him before the start of the final round by telling him he was only one point ahead, the real score was 13-2.
1996-08-02 Tarver loses (15-9) in semifinal to Vassily Jirov. At the middle of the 2nd round the score was 4-4, but then Tarver abandoned his mobile style and began to slug it out, losing the round 9-8 and exhausting himself.


Commongly accepted amateur record of Antonio Tarver is 158-8, but as can be seen from the above data, he had 6 losses in 1993 already (including one loss to Roy Jones Jr in 1982 Sunshine State Games finals), and has lost at least 6 times since then, so his record should contain at least 12 losses.