Great fighters' bogeymen

I think Turpin was Robinson's Ken Norton. Difference being Sugar Ray had that equalizer. Otherwise Turpin was a nightmare with big awkward jab and freakish size and strength for a middleweight. Very weird boxing style. Almost doing kneebends.

 

Flash Elorde just could not get past Shig Kaneko. I always thought it was 3 times but Boxrec has it at 4. He just had a hex over Flash.

 

If my memory serves me, saddler was ahead on points when Pep RTD when he separated his shoulder and couldn't come out for the 7th

 

I think Moore beat Joey Maxim, and Charles lost to Maxim, not 100% sure on that. Just off the top of my head.

 

I'll add to my original post

Valdez - Briscoe
Arguello - Escalera
Soose - Overlin
Buchanan - Laguna

 

Ezzard Charles went 5-0 in his series with Joey Maxim, starting when both were light-heavyweights in 1942 and ending in 1951.

The biggest fight in the series saw Charles defending his heavyweight title against Maxim, the light heavyweight champion, at Chicago Stadium on May 30, 1951. Charles won by unanimous decision, with Maxim in "a sorry mess" at the end, according to a contemporary report.

If we think the heavyweight division lacks excitement today, the same apparently applied in 1951. In a prefight story in The New York Times, columnist Arthur Daley wrote scathingly that the contest "is of interest only to guys who own television sets or have access to same. This is strictly a video show for videots. Its only recommendation is that Charles happens to be the heavyweight champion and that Maxim happens to be the light heavyweight champion." Despite Daley's negativism, a not-too-bad crowd of 7,226 turned out to see the under-appreciated and underrated Charles give a dominant display.

More multiple fights here:

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3309743

 

As was already mentioned, Saddler beat him 3 times.

Now there might be some debate about how prime Pep was when he faced him, Saddler's roughhouse tactics, and him being behind on points, but I would argue that you don't necessarily have to beat a fighter every time or outclass him in order to be considered that fighter's Boogeyman.

IMO it has more to do with having a style or skill set that just gives a particular opponent hell and is very difficult for him to solve. Judging from what I've read about Pep's encounters with Saddler (which admittedly isn't that much), Sandy seems to have met that definition in regards to Pep.

 

Yes that's why i added him as an afterthought.

 

I guess Oscar Bonevena was Joe Frazier's boogeyman in a sense that he knocked him down pre prime. In the rematch a peak Frazier tried to decapitate Oscar but never was able to stop him.

 

Nope.

• Referee: Ruby Goldstein 5-2 for Pep
• Judge: Young Otto 5-2 for Pep
• Judge: Frank Forbes 4-2 for Pep

• The Associated Press reported:

Saddler's best round was the third, in which he dumped Pep with a hard left hook on the chin. Pep stayed down for a nine count and came up to give better than he received for the rest of the round. Saddler also earned the seventh round, only by a slight margin. All the others went to Pep by handy margins, and it appeared to be only a question of whether his 28 year old legs could carry him the rest of the route at the stiff pace he was setting. He had left jabbed Sandy into a partial state of bewilderment and had crossed a score of lusty rights to the Negro's jaw. At the end Saddler's left eye was closing fast. Pep had a cut on his left cheek bone from which blood spilled in the final round. As the fight went on it became progressively rougher. Apparently angered at his inability to corner the dancing, jabbing Pep, Saddler wrestled him around roughly in the sixth and seventh rounds, and it probably was in one of those tugging matches that Pep's shoulder was injured.

 

You’re a brave man. Here come the Tyson fans in 3...2...1...

 

Great post. I can’t wait to read what the Tyson fans have to say about this.