Im talking about fighters on a night were they looked as unbeatable as can be for whatever weight they were at at the time. The ones that spring to mind for me are............. DURAN v Leonard 1 - 1980 ALI v Williams - 1966 ROBINSON v Lamotta 6 - 1951 HAGLER v Hearns - 1985 LEONARD v Duran 2 - 1980 CHAVEZ v Rosario - 1987 WHITAKER v Ramirez 2 - 1989 LOUIS v Schmelling - 1938 TYSON v Spinks - 1988 JONES v Toney - 1993 HOPKINS v Trinidad - 2001 CALZAGHE v Lacy - 2005 MAYWEATHER v Gatti - 2005 MORALES v Ayala - 2002 BARRERA v Hamed - 2001 HAMED v Robinson - 1995 HEARNS v Duran - 1984 I cant think of anymore now. Whats yours & do you agree with my choices because I was in 2 minds with some of the guys as they had more than 1 great performance, for eg. I couldnt decide between Morales v Ayala, McCullouch, Pacquiao or Hernandez, they were all equally good performances when considering the opponents. :thumbsup
I disagree with the following choices. But I definitely agree with Duran's performance against Leonard, aside from the end when he started to slack a bit.
On March 8, 1971, I can't think of many guys who would have defeated Joe Frazier the night he beat Muhammad Ali.
Leonard's best night was against Benitez, Mayweather against Corralles, Hagler probably against Sibson. What do you see as the best performance from Robinson, Whitaker, and Hopkins? I think LaMotta 6 is probably the overall best SRR looked that we have footage of, Whitaker had a few that could be argued, I'd probably say Nelson given the opponent, but I think Ramirez II could be easily argued as his overall best showing, and Hopkins performances against Tarver, Joppy, and Johnson are probably the next choices, but I see his win over Trinidad as his best performance.
Agreed on the first 3 picks. I think we never really got to see the best of Robinson, even though I agree it's probably the best we have of him on film. Maybe the Gavilan fights would've been his WW peak. I actually thought Whitaker looked better against Haugen and Nelson than against Ramirez in the rematch. I was nevwer as big a fan of his work in that fight as everyone else. He just looked a bit lackadaisical to me, though it does say something that he could afford to take it that easy on that level of fighter. I'd say Hopkins's best win was the Tito win, and he looked brilliant doing it, but I generally think he was at his peak a tad bit earlier than that, say Glen Johnson fight, even though it wasn't as good an overall win at all.
It's almost guaranteed that the best performance by Robinson was at welter, but he does look spectacular against LaMotta, and both Gavilan fights are supposed to have been close with Robinson saying they were hsi hardest fights. I don't know how I forgot what Whitaker did to Haugen, that may be the most one-sided decision I've ever seen. I to believe Hopkins' peak was a bit earlier with the Trinidad performance probably being his last in his overall prime (although he still looked about as good in the Joppy fight a year later). Johnson is a good pick for performance, he just looked perfect in that fight, but Trinidad was an overall better fighter when he met Hopkins then Johnson was, so I still hold that as his best showing. What do you feel was the best performance by Trinidad (Joppy for me) and Olivares (Rose)?
Tito's best performances were probably at 154 for me, maybe his win over Thiam, though he did look great MW against Joppy, which is why I take that win for Hopkins much more seriously than the Oscar win. The Rose fight is a good choice for Olivares, given how skilled Rose was and how Ruben basically ruined him as a fighter. Ruben at his best was really something, one of the most versatile and skilled of all Mexican boxers.
Totally agree. At his best Ruben was probably the overall most impressive of all the great Mexican boxers I've seen. One more question, what's the best performance from Napoles? I personally can't really decide. also, Saldivar, as I haven't seen much of him.
A lot of the footage of him at his true best(135 and 140) is lost, though there are a few of those fights available. Of his WW reign his bouts with Cokes and his one-sided victory over Emile Griffith(albeit a weight drained version) are the best he's looked.
****... I meant to put that one on the list.... also.... FOREMAN v Frazier I LEWIS v Rahman II MARCIANO v Charles II ARGUELLO v Mancini
Fighters I disagree with: HOPKINS - Johnson MONZON - GRIFFITH I LEONARD - Benitez LEWIS - Tyson MAYWEATHER Jr. - Corrales CALZAGHE - Kessler not mentioned fighters: PATTERSON - Johannson II Jack JOHNSON - Burns SCHMELING - Louis I SCHOLZ - Humez II MUELLER - Giardello II DAGGE - Obed SCHULZ - Foreman MASKE - Rocchigiani II ROCCHIGIANI - Maske I (Graziano got robbed in that one) STURM - Oscar ABRAHAM - Ikeke
I disagree too.... I thought HOPKINS was better v Tito & Joppy. Havent seen enough of MONZON. I would go for the LEONARD of the Duran rematch but have no probs with the Benitez fight being up there as he clearly outboxed a very gifted boxer in Benitez + got the TKO. You have to remember how shot Tyson was so I would put the Rahman rematch up there as LEWIS most devastating win, everything considered. MAYWEATHER was punch perfect v Gatti & I would have that one 1st but unquestionably the Corrales fight is 2nd. CALZAGHE showed his great adaptability v Kessler who was certainly a better fighter than Lacy but winning 7-5 in rds has to fall short of winning 12-0 in rds especially when Lacy wasnt exactly a bad or a shot fighter, he was on a roll just like Kessler. :thumbsup
What about Olivares TKO2 Alan Rudkin? This was Olivares first defense of his Bantamweight title. Rudkin was No1 contender and had split a decision with Rose earlier that year in Australia and given Harada a fight in Japan. He was only stopped once before this, on a cut eye and was never stopped after it. I think this was Olivares at his absolute peak.