Great Fighters who never won a world title

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  1. EireFightFan

    EireFightFan Active Member Full Member

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    Obviously all the avoided Black fighters like Jackson, Langford, Wills, Jeanette and McVey come to mind.
    HW's that fought during the Golden era such as Cooney, Lyle, Shavers, Williams and Folley.

    Amateurs like Teofilio Stevenson, Savon and Papp

    And more recently the only non-HW I can think of excluding Papp & Landford, Herol Graham.

    others please?
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends what you mean by world title. Many fighters, including some of those you have named have won world titles, but an awful lot of excellent to brilliant fighters have never won proper World Championships....

    To my knowledge, Charley Burley won neither.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I am prepared for the backlash, but Teofilo Stevenson had he turned pro would have turned out to be a Top 10 ATG heavyweight. Maybe higher. I firmly believe he would have clearly beat a old muhammad of the late 1970s, knocked out foreman, his right hand would have been larry holmes kyptonite, and he had proven success in amatuers vs many of the top Alpha champs. I think his style would have adjusted to the pros very cleanly with a top trainer. Stevenson was the best prospect I have ever heard of or seen on film. At least 6'6 In shape 225lb, with extremley long reach, one of the best right hands we have ever seen, phenominal jab, outstanding finisher, Just a great all around offensive fighter with good speed and overall skill.
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    My answer is always the same: Jerry Quarry. Scoff if you like, but I'm convinced that if Quarry was fighting today, he would be the dominant champ at CW. I just can't see guys like Adamek or Cunningham beating him.
     
  5. EireFightFan

    EireFightFan Active Member Full Member

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    Point taken, I guess pre 1970's the linear title and from then on only taking the Big 4 alphabets into account.

    I don't think Burley ever even got an opportunity to fight for a 'World' title?
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Sam Langford
    Joe Jeanette
    Harry Wills
    Charley Burley
    Lloyd Marshall
    Holman Williams
    Eddie Booker
    Jack Chase
    Lee Q Murray
    Jimmy Bivins
    Elmer Ray
    Clarence Henry
    Cleveland Williams
    Zora Folley
    Eddie Machen
    Jerry Quarry
    David Tua
    Ike Ibeubuchi
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    The post said great fighters, I see 6 possibly 7 there ,no more
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Billy Petrolle
    Packey McFarland
    Jim Driscoll
    Owen Moran
     
  9. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Mike Gibbons

    For whoever said David Tua: You are nuts. The guy had no dedication or motivation. No willingness to expand his arsenal. All he brought to the table was a big left hook and a good chin (the reputation of which was enhanced by his willingness to cover up and simply plod around the ring without offering any real offense once he had been stung). The guy was the most one dimensional, predictable fighter to EVER challenge for the HW championship and he actually had a shot at winning that fight (because I believe Lewis incredibly overrated and his induction into the HOF is the final nail in that piece of shits coffin) but blew it by coming in fat, out of shape, with no game plan.
     
  10. My2Sense

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  11. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Herol "Bomber" Graham :happy
     
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Local lad Pierre Fourie comes to mind. He was not a great fighter, but in an era where he didn't have Bob Foster or Victor Galindez as champions, he could have won a title.
    He took both to points verdicts in all four fights (which is an achievement in itself considering how destructive Bob Foster was) and was never in any trouble in any of those fights, barring the first round with Foster in the first fight where he had difficulty settling down.

    He went to his grave convinced he had beaten Galindez in the second fight.
     
  13. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ala villamor
     
  14. ripcity

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  15. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    From an absolutely one eyed Australian point of view I'll rattle a few off:

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    : Only went 8 rounds for lightweight title with Duran, but hurt Duran like few before or since. Later challenged Cervantes at light welter. Overall 73 wins, 12 losses & 2 draws.

    TONY MUNDINE (Snr) - Dominant middleweight unfortunate to be in an era when Carlos Monzon ruled the division. Challenged Monzon gamely but lasted 7 rounds. One of Australia's greatest P4P fighters. Overall 80 wins, 15 losses & 1 draws.

    CHARKEY RAMON - Fought less than 4 years at light middleweight, but absolutely world class. Retired due to injury. Overall 33 wins, 1 losses & 1 draws.

    PAUL FERRERI - World class bantamweight who held Commonwealth Title for 17 years! Zarate, another division ruler, took 12 rounds to dispose of him (on cuts) - most others fell in a few rounds to the Mex KO king. Overall 78 wins, 13 losses & 5 draws.

    The above all fought in the days when there were few world titles and they were hard to win - a contast to today (unfortunately).

    Other Aussies spring to mind such as Troy Waters, Nedal 'Skinny' Hussien & Kevin 'Bones' Kelly etc - and I've missed some, particularly from the distant past.