Great Fighters With No Signature Win?

Gans scaled 131.5lbs to Langford's136lbs ,a pound over the weight Langford was contracted to make so Langford had to pay a forfeit weight disparity.4.5lbs!
NO TWO DIVISIONS DIFFERENCE AT ALL
Plus Langford was only 17 years old!
Ketchel had 64 fights when he fought Langford He was the reigning middleweight champion 23 years old and had recently ko'd the reigning lhy champion,and fought for the heavyweight title The weight disparity between Langford and Ketchel was at Ketchel's insistence as was the abbreviated length of the fight.
Wills was between 24 and 32years for his series with Langford.
Young Peter Jackson was a fine fighter ,he beat
Jack O Brien by ko
Joe Walcott by ko
Langford
Dixie Kid
Pete Everett
Mike Donovan
To name a few.
Where do you get 50 losses for Langford from? What is your source for them?
FYI. Langford's losses include 22 when he was past 35 years old and 26 of them when he was blind in one eye with less than 100% vision in the other!
This may sound like a novel radical question but ever thought of doing any research?

 

Vitali's legacy is this

1 ) 1st ballot hall of fame fighter, top vote-getter I think during the process as they listed his name first.

2 ) One of two heavyweight champions never to be floored by a punch

3 ) Owner of the best rounds won to round lost ratio on the card in the history of the division. Never losing more than 3 rounds on any card in all of his fights.

4 ) Coming back in his late 30's after a long layoff to dominate, wining a belt, and defending it a few times.

^^^ Any one of those would be a career for most boxers. Vitali has all four boxes checked. Very rare.

That's partly because he outclassed them so easily.

The next time a boxer retires with all of the above accomplishments I mentioned, will be when? Perhaps no one living here will see it and you can apply the above to ANY weight class.

I'll give you the field of history. Who can match ALL FOUR of the above points? Go ahead list any who can meet three of the above watermarks, I'd like to see the attempt.

I'll help you out a bit.

First ballot hall of fame fighters at any weight class, I'll guess 40 in the past 100 years. To be inducted on the first nomination is impressive.

Champions at any weight class who were never floored by a punch? I'll give you McCall. You might find a few more, but how many of them were first ballot hall of fame fighters?

Owner of the best rounds won to rounds won to rounds lost raito, never losing more than 3 rounds in any fight? You will find none better in boxing history among champions.

Coming back in his late 30's to win and defend a belt? Jofre, and Foreman come to mind, that's it. And neither of them defended it as often.

 

Most of the top 15 hw's would have outclassed Vitali's opposition as easily as he did and would have lost the same amount of rounds, many of them fewer.

The one chance Vitali did get at a signature win he lost.

 

Isn't Napoles' signature win over Emile Griffith?

 

No, its because his opposition was ordinary.

 

I'll help you out a bit.

First ballot hall of fame fighters at any weight class, I'll guess 40 in the past 100 years. To be inducted on the first nomination is impressive.

Champions at any weight class who were never floored by a punch? I'll give you McCall. You might find a few more, but how many of them were first ballot hall of fame fighters?

Owner of the best rounds won to rounds won to rounds lost ratio, never losing more than 3 rounds in any fight? You will find none better in boxing history among champions.

Coming back in his late 30's to win and defend a belt? Jofre, and Foreman come to mind, that's it. And neither of them defended it as often.

Well many great fighters struggled with ordinary opposition, didn't they? How come Vitali did not???

Vitali fought plenty of punchers, he has an all time chin. And he is one of boxing best all time older fighters as well, dominating from age 27-41.

I gave you an open compare and contrast, Vitali vs the field in history on four key points. As usual my points tower over yours. As for Completion, you can check an older thread, Vitali beat 8 or so guys ranked in the top ten. This his completion wasn't very good business when talking about heavyweights can be found as far back at the 1910's

 

Bob Foster despite being classed by most as a top 3 light heavy of all time didn't have a signature win.

 

This is all self justifying waffle and totally meaningless.
The bottom line is:
VITALI KLITCHKO DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNATURE WIN TO HIS NAME END OF!

 

Virgil Hill very good.fighter but didn't really have a defining fight.

 

Was he a "great?"

 

There is a solid case for making this claim!

 

Blah, blah, blah...you won't even attempt a debate on what I wrote.

I would say is out of the ring 4 years over age 36 and completely dominating a then highly ranked Sam Peter with no warm-up fights is a signature win.

Who else in history could do that, and make it look as easy?

You can answer anytime McVey. We get it, you hate him.

 

Probably Dick Tiger, since he basically didn’t beat anyone else on that level.

I think Foster is very overrated.