Great film study showing why Fury will beat AJ

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Watch Fury Vs Wlad and that's all you need

    AJ's is a stiff plodder compared to Fury

    Footwork is almost everything in boxing.

    AJ only holds 1 advantage over Fury, raw power. That is not enough.

    AJ will look weaker than he has ever looked when he has a bigger man against him.

    The mental then physical pressure will make AJ gas out (If he hasn't done that himself trying to get on top of Fury)...then it's an uphill struggle. Fury will drown him late.

    It's going to be brutal, like watching an amateur fight a veteran pro. Fury hitting him at free will.

    This will be the performance Fury should have brought against Wlad for the first fight. Using his stamina to grind down big stiff idiots. He let Wlad off easy in the first fight.
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know what 240+ punders move like Loma or Pac, and even they will generally stay in front of their opponent when they think they have him really hurt and is looking for the kill.

    Ruiz had just ate some really big shots by Joshua and AJ probably thought like the rest of us that he was about to go, and then seemingly from nowhere come those great counter hooks...

    Joshua was a bit reckless when he walked into Whyte's and Wlad's shots, though, even if Wlad seemed to do a good job of pulling him in. A seasoned veteran with a huge punch will always be very dangerous in times like those.

    Anyhow, my guess is that it won't be much of an issue against Fury, since he isn't really an explosive counter puncher. If there's a KO, I think it will come by the hands of AJ. Fury should use his jab and box, I think. But we'll see.
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson was one HW that could pivot beautifully in a middle of an attack, but he he used that when he needed to unlock someone. When he had a badly hurt fighter in front of him he just poured it on. And it would be kind of silly if he pivoted to an angle when smashing Bruno against the ropes for example.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fury can hurt AJ.
     
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  6. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    WTF needs a film study to know that Fury would clown AJ?
     
  7. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AJ has a great chance of winning that fight. Fury fans need to get over themselves thinking this is gonna be an easy win. Just watch the Wallin fight. Fury struggles with combination punchers and always has. Even a novice amateur AJ who only laced up a pair of gloves 2 years prior battered Fury in sparring with combinations. Fury will struggle with AJ’s punch variety.
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, but I don't think it will be a roll under and a swift counter like Ruiz did.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Firstly, it's hard to take anyone called Ian Streetz seriously.

    I've never seen it as an easy fight for Fury because AJ is a huge unit, with good hand speed for his size, especially with his combinations, and whilst he doesn't possess the one shot KO power of say a Povetkin he does hit very hard and he can definitely knock Fury out if he catches him right. He's also in much better physical condition in terms of actually being on a proper strength training program, whereas Fury is still 25% flab.

    But Fury is much slicker, more fluid, agile, elusive and he's also mentally stronger and a more natural fighter.

    Compare how Fury responded after getting dropped like a sack of potatoes on enemy territory by the hardest right hand The Tuscaloser has ever thrown to how AJ did when he got dropped by Fat Andy on enemy territory.

    AJ fell to pieces mentally whereas Fury rose from the dead like Lazarus nonchalantly bouncing up off the canvas like a Jack in the box without a care in the world and not only proceeded to do a funny skip when the referee instructed him to move to his right but then proceeded to take the fight to The Tuscaloser, put his hands behind his back and taunt him, and then hurt him himself as he swept the rest of the round.

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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    AJ doesn`t throw enough punches and his punch variety ppales in comparison with great heavies like M.Tyson and Louis, you are overating his offensive skills.
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Was it before or after AJ got KOd in sparring by David Price, Dubois and Dawejko?
     
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  12. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think it'll be a walkover at all. Personally I make Fury 60/40 favourite but would not be surprised at all if Joshua manages it. He's an incredibly dangerous combination puncher and we know Fury can lose concentration. All it would take is a split second.

    I have to mention thought that this sparring story which has resurfaced is not being relayed with total accuracy and this new rehash is a bit misleading. I can't actually find it but one of the trainers at the boxing gym that day has commented on it and said what really happened. Basically Joshua got to Fury who was messing around then Fury stepped it up in rounds 2 and 3 and it was called off. Courtesy of @SambaKing1993 who originally posted it.
     
  13. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I don't understand why some people are up their favourite fighters ******* so much that they can't show the opposition any respect.
     
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  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I personally don't think it looked like he folded mentally at all. He just never seemed to recover. I personally thought it impressive if anything that he did four rds with no legs under him, but that mostly had to with Ruiz being very hesitant to press the attack for some reason. A more lethal finisher would have AJ out of there in the third.

    That Fury recovered like he did from that second KD was probably the most miraculos thing I've seen in sport (and not that I have seen any "miracles" otherwise :), but he was clear when he got up, so I've never seen him keeping alive when out on his feet like AJ did against Wlad, or even against Whyte. So if they have the kind of knockdown and reeling around party that Wlad and AJ had, I'm not sure who'll show the more heart. Probably a lot both of them.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think he was in panic mode after the KD in the third, which to be fair is totally understand what with it being his debut and coming out party on US soil, and subsequently burnt up a lot of nervous energy. He had his poker face on but I could see the signs of a very worried man in there who was struggling with the realization that his worst nightmare was becoming reality. I don't subscribe to this notion that he quit though.

    Fury went down like he'd been shot in the face at point blank range with a shotgun and he bounced up like he'd just taken an industrial shot of 100 proof life force in the arm. He was completely unfazed and didn't look remotely concerned. He even won the 10th after being dropped at the end of round 9 IIRC, again completely unfazed.