Great Jim Braddock Vid

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just ran across this...I enjoyed it immensely...at last, a look at the boxing skills of Jim Braddock...
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Glad you enjoyed it RC!
    I wish there were more fight footage of Braddock, but I did what I could.
     
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    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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  4. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great video! Braddock is definitely underrated.
     
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  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Awesome job! Love the clips picking apart Baer. Even better is the Louis footage.

    Well done Rez!!
     
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  6. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree great vid. Looking at Braddock's style and skills you would never think he lost 26 times.
     
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  7. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Braddock was ****. Totally overrated based on his cinderella story. I noticed you only used about 2 seconds of the Loughran fight in which a prime Braddock looks like a complete amateur with two left feet (and in that clip he misses his punch lol). Anyone can string together 3 mins of a fighters best moments in order to make them look better than they were. It would be easier to string together a highlight reel showing just how mediocre he was. Whats almost completely lost to history, and totally absent from you HL reel is that the lynchpin to the Braddock myth, his victory over Baer, was a very close fight and hardly revelatory performance that your video makes it out to be. As if suddenly at the age of 35 and after nearly 100 fights (a third of which were losses) the world suddenly got to see the real Jim Braddock or that he suddenly figured out how to fight. The bottom line is that a mediocre journeyman got lucky as hell fighting the fight of his life (which still wasnt great) against a champion who respected neither himself or the title and fought accordingly and despite the closeness of the fight in an era when you still had to "take the title" from the champion somehow got the benefit of the doubt from the judges.
     
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  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Which punch didn't land on Loughran. Can you provide a timestamp?
    All of my clips are selected with care, and after looking at every shot again, all the punches on Loughran landed.

    I have only 8 minutes of the Loughran fight, and Braddock doesn't look amateurish at all. He stalks Loughran, applying dangerous pressure with his power. Loughran wouldn't need to move around the ring on his toes if Braddock was an amateurish non threat. Braddocks punches landed hard on Tommy. And his stiff jab that was going through his head.

    This isn't a video debating the greatness of Braddocks title victory. It is a showcase of the skills he had as a boxer. It's in the title.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I don't rate Braddock either but i think he was 30 for the Baer fight, not 35.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I haven't seen the Loughran v Braddock fight but reports say Loughran jabbed his head off. I appreciate your clips and am grateful for them.Whilst I think Klompton was unnecessarily harsh on both you and Braddock ,I don't think Braddock was that special as a boxer,then again you aren't saying he was a Willie Pep type heavyweight .
     
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  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Mind you I only have 8 minutes of the fight, but Loughran was more effective, boxing beautifully on the outside, Braddock playing the power punching stalker. Loughran was doing better with the jab, but Braddock used his as a pole axe, driving it through Loughran with power. Loughran looked to be on high alert the entire fight, often looking flustered by Braddocks power.

    Loughran isn't breezing through this fight at all. He treats Braddock like a big threat. While Loughran looks great, Jimmy doesn't look amateurish, its complete nonsense.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'm seeing a lot of missed punches and picked off jabs.

    Braddock has a ton of heart and resolution but according to those who saw him fight night after night, he was not the most skillful guy. God forbid Klompton jumps on this thread because my estimation will seem like a compliment.

    Let's be honest. Given the editing skills necessary, anyone could make a highlight reel of Frans Botha that made him appear to be the GOAT. It's just part of the ESPN highlight reel, ADD culture which is all fine and good if you want to be entertained. But don't mistake entertainment for enlightenment.

    Edit: I see that Klompton already spoke his mind.
     
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  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Can you tell me the time stamps of the punches you think missed?

    No. No amount of editing skill could make Botha look like the Goat. That is just simply incorrect.

    Most viewers are smart enough to understand what a highlight is. It shows you what the guy could do, and how he did it.

    It's a shame you seem so threatened by an innocent showcase of stylistically nuanced skills from a lineal champion of boxing history.

    Any interpretation that has to do with Braddock being the goat is the result of paranoia and overzealous agenda protection. No person looking at it rationally would see it this way.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    :29 Baer deflects his second punch, neither punch of the two in this segment halts Baer's progress a bit. He's walking Braddock down.

    :37 It damn sure looks like Louis down parries his jab.

    :45 He mauls Louis into the ropes and lands a featherduster to the kidneys but not much else. This is a highlight of his filmed career?

    :52 Baer side parries the jab and blocks the hook with his shoulder. Not sure he even lands that uppercut. Look, it's good to keep an opponent busy with offense but is this the sort of offense that constitutes highlight reel material?

    Now, I am hungry.
     
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  15. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Every accomplished fighter has something to show. They all have their own set of traits. Their own powers and weaknesses. But they are all worth appreciating, revering, and learning from.

    Every great fight is an opportunity to pit two of these fighters together, to see whose physical skills and mental faculties win out. This is true Boxiana!
     
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